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Old 03-14-2008, 05:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You should read what the guy who started the weather channel thinks about global warming. I have to agree, I'm starting to think it's a load of crap.
The guy who started the weather channel is an idiot.

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Last year was one of the coldest years on record,
2007 tied for the second warmest year on record.

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this year is setting records already for low temps and record amounts of snowfall..........where is this global warming thing gonna happen again??
You are confusing weather with climate. Short term climate cycles overwhelmingly dominate the long term global warming signal. You need to average over about 15 years. This winter was very cold which is not unexpected because of a strong La Niña event which started in the fall of last year.

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And when? Even the Arctic sea ice is back to it's "normal" levels.
Well not really back to normal, it jumped back up to above where it was before last year, but there is a definite long term multi-decadal decline of arctic ice.

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Granted, we know very little about what normal is, but we do know that it's been much warmer in the recent past, and much cooler. So where do we fall now? Who knows.
What we do know is that radiative physics demands that adding CO2 and other greenhouse gases to our atmosphere must warm the planet. And we have pushed CO2 levels well above what they have been in the recent past (650,000 years).

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FOXNews.com - Weather Channel Founder: Sue Al Gore for Fraud - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News

he actually wants to sue Al Gore for fraud. Read what he has to say though, it's an interesting take on the "information" we've all heard about climate change.
Let him try to sue, it would be a laugh. How is Al Gore committing fraud, his company doesn't sell carbon credits, it buys them for its own operations.

Listen to him babble: [As you look at the atmosphere over the last 25 years, there's been perhaps a degree of warming, perhaps probably a whole lot less than that, and the last year has been so cold that that's been erased," he said.]

You don't "erase" decades of warming. February warmed from January by 0.14C, does that mean that much warming came back? No, again that is weather, not climate.

More babbling: [The compound carbon dioxide makes up only 38 out of every 100,000 particles in the atmosphere, he said. That's about twice as what there were in the atmosphere in the time we started burning fossil fuels, so it's gone up, but it's still a tiny compound," Coleman said. "So how can that tiny trace compound have such a significant effect on temperature?

"My position is it can't," he continued. "It doesn't, and the whole case for global warming is based on a fallacy."
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No idea where he gets almost twice what it was before we started burning fuels, it's gone from 280ppm to 384ppm which is a 37% increase.

Radiative forcing physics is almost 150 years old and the warming effect of CO2 has been demonstrated and tested in multiple laboratory experiments and then confirmed by quantum mechanics calculations. He doesn't understand physics.
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