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al Asaad · 03-24-2008, 05:30 AM

7:30 AM, EST

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Originally Posted by bornright

Many blacks in this country have anger toward whites due to the fact that many of them had ancestors that were slave owners.

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You must have meant Blacks had masters (any white man) who raped Black women at will and by your twisted logic, became "ancestors"?
You are correct: though a white man who raped his slaves is not an "ancestor" in the strictest sense but rapists.

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It does not matter that nobody alive today has even a memory of a slave owner.

Many of us are old enough to have had our grand-grand relatives tell us of slavery and the brutal, unimaginable sexual depravity of whites.
Though not all whites were slave holders, many who were not slave owners still took advantage of their positions to brutalize and rape Black women.

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It is also a known fact that most blacks were sold into slavery by people of Africa.

BULLSHIT!

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Some were captured and sold by warring tribes.

The operative word being "some".

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It is hard to imagine a hand full

What “handful”? Did you mean to infer the 30,000 or more armed Europeans quartered in Africa were just a "handful"?
I see you are forgetting (or worse, are not aware the North American slave trade took place over 243 years? Which makes your stupid (worse than invidious) comparisons reek of calumny?
243 years was more than enough time for thousands of ARMED whites to control their booty.
*[i]Those who perpetrated the slave trade never had to move those 14 million African all at once: groups of 25 to 50 were moved in coffles of people chained together.
Or did your somehow forget one firearm among unarmed people constitutes absolute control?
*How the flip else do you think armed prison guards can control so many vicious felons?

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…of slave traders could manhandle and control such a large number of people without help from Africans.

You are in full-blown denial of facts, which allows you to dig yourself deeper in your typical white person denial role.

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I have asked what do black Americans think of these individuals that would sell their own people into slavery?

That is stupidity in the extremis: your (and other ignorant whites) naiveté lets you blame Blacks for sustaining their own slavery.
**That's not just naiveté: that's rewriting history.

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Obama is an African American who has no ancestors that were slaves yet in fact on his mother's side of the family they owned slaves.

Duh.

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On his father's side it is very posible that they sold blacks into slavery.

To you and other poorly informed (read: dumb), attempts at rewriting history:
Victors, Black, white or otherwise, always sold their vanquished enemies.
[quote]A lesson in slavery:
In Africa, a slave could buy his freedom. He could marry into the captor tribe (in that many time they were “cousins” of sorts.
He could work himself out of slavery or by, in the employ of his owner, perform a service that freed him.
Even as he was a “slave”, in Africa he could simply walk away and millions did.
In time, those who escaped told others of the differences between African slavery and the brutal facts of North American slavery.
As their experiences became know among Africans, and though the capture of their enemies continued, by 1570,Africans stopped cooperating with whites.
Then again, whites who bought slaves often enough simply captured the erstwhile “sellers”.
That is: it soon enough became known that cooperating with whites for whatever reason did not, at the same time, guarantee your safe return to your tribe, but often enough meant slavery for captors and victims alike.
As the word spread, Africans stopped selling Africans.

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If this is true

It’s not.

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will it change how Black Americans feel about the African American Obama?

No. That’s a white thing.

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This is a valid question and is not racist.

Everything you say in this post is racist on its face.

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I would like to hear from some of the Black Americans on an answer. Hopefully you will take the question as it is intended.

First: your self-serving thesis is:
“Africans sold Africans and thus, by their own efforts, sustained North American slavery”.
Your thesis then intends not to “understand” but have Blacks defend your invidious thesis: how stupid would we have to be to agree (in part of whole) with your ill-informed (ignorant) conclusions?