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Originally Posted by Environment Man
laws of physics would require a law establisher.
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We do not currently know where the laws of physics came from because that would require us looking outside our universe. No way of doing so was devised... yet.
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formed would require a former.
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Not really. If a bunch of raindrops fall together nearby, they will coalesce into bigger ones. This does not require creator. They so to reduce surface tension and minimize their energy state. Everything in the universe seeks to minimize its energy, so just like bigger raindrops, atoms are at lower state then the sum of their parts...
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Originally Posted by Environment Man
You cannot get around intelligent design. There is no way an atom could form with design and build specs. Not to mention an infinite number of them. How did they 'know' to do that. And then to self organize? Please.
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How do crystals form naturally without any creator? See above, it is the best available configuration for them at the moment. Chemical and nuclear reactions do not require supernatural explanation... They occur naturally and can (more or less) easily be replicated in the lab.