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Originally Posted by disfigured
Your not thinking like a criminal. You assuming a struggle. Here's how there isn't one:You point gun at their head and say "Hang yourself, or I'll kill you now where you stand". Of course they don't know you might not be willing to do so, because you don't want to leave any evidence behind of a shooting. If there is a struggle you go to Plan B. Having them disappear completely, or something else. If not then you've got your no struggle scene of a suicide.
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once again...counting on the fact that someone is just going to hang themselves because you have a gun is a messy way to a murder. This was a storage unit in the middle of a trailer park in the middle of the day. Also...they would have had to force her to pen several suicide notes first? (suicide notes were found)
These professional assassins are just hanging out in a storage unit (in the middle of the day) waiting for her to write different versions of suicide notes... with no fear of being noticed or found?
Sounds risky for professional assassins.
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Get em drunk first. Slip them a mickey in their drink. It would probably be pretty hard to tell (even forensically) when the effects of a drug that incapacitates you, had taken effect. Before the ability to hang yourself or after? Many times drugs and alcohol are found in suicide victims anyway.
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Can you name a drug that causes respiratory failure or depression that won't be found in an autopsy?
forcing somone to overdose brings the same problem with signs of a struggle that hanging does...
anyway, so far we don't have any evidence that she was on drugs or took something...because the autopsy results haven't been released.
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Your assuming the murderer is crude and not resourceful. I've just given you two very likely scenarios that would leave no signs of struggle
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you named two scenerios granted, but for those to work...you're assuming she puts up no struggle at all.
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Fake photo shoot for money. Pose a photographer who's going to get you big dollars for bizarre pictures. Talk them into it. A CIA agent shows up and gives you two choices. Incarceration, shame, a long trial and prison sentence, or even the murder of a loved one. Or hang yourself
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try and blackmail a prostitute that has just been sentenced to prison?
can I laugh here?
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Bribe the mother into convincing her daughter it's the only way out. Who knows, maybe she hated her own daughter. We don't know.
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We don't know...but this is far stretched, her friends state she enjoyed staying with her mother, doesn't appear that she hated her.
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There aren't as many ways of get away with a crime as there are of fucking one up. But it's not impossible. If it were there wouldn't be unsolved cases.
Most crimes are committed within the throws of emotion or out of desperation. That's why there's evidence. If one is calculated enough, there's a possibility of "get away with it
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I never said all crimes were solved or that someone couldn't get away with it, that's not even close to what I was saying.
I only asserted that there is evidence that this was just a suicide.
I still think Kerr McGee murdered Karen Silkwood, maybe I will start a new thread.