CosmicRocker

^ fair enough. I don't want o side step to WWII either - except that was a defensive war, as you call them.

I suppsoe some of the role of the USA as a world power is a matter of perspective.
Because we HAVE entered into 2 collosall failures ,
and put our foot in where we had no business ( Iraq, Vietnam ), we lose perspective of our full history.

Tossing Spain out of Cuba.
Repelling the Japanese form China, the Philipines, and Germany from France and Europe in WWII.
The same for WWI

I see a pretty good grasp of history on your part, sadly many younger folks refuse to believe that even when we fuck up and meddle in places we have no business, we usually do so out of just motivations.

It's the blame America Always crowd that need to understand America has been
a force for stabiliy, and justice, without a desire for conquest throughout our history.

we are flawed, but not an evil empire.

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