Originally Posted by Insipid

Her campaign has been in now way abomminable. Obama would certainly think it irrational to not vote for Hillary should she get the nomination. He has said so on many occaisions. As far as their decision making process goes, other than the iraq war vote (of course Barack wasn't in the Senate for that decision) what major ways did they vote differently? Since Barack was in the Senate their votes have been the same.

As far as the Iraq vote goes: while i disagreed with Hillary and would not of voted the same way, her vote was not because of a lack of scruples or temperment. Their was some core principles involved in it. That is that the congress should stand behind the president as far as use of force goes especially when it comes to coercive diplomacy. Bill Clinton expected the support of Congress for Kosovo and, by and large, he got it. Bush stated repeatedly that the use of force resolution was not a vote for War at the time.

Maybe Hillary was wrong to believe him, however i don't think it's fair to blame the person who was lied to as much as the liar.

Here's what Joseph Wilson, no fan of the Iraq war or George Bush (but he IS a fan of Hillary Clinton's) had to say about the Iraq war vote:

""Well, I think the fact that's dominated the narrative is an indication of how little people really understand the dynamics of the debate as it was going on at the time. And the people making a lot of hay over this weren't there. I was there. I was fighting the fight. I looked to the left of me. I looked to the right of me. I didn't see Barack Obama anywhere. I was out there and there is nobody who can deny that. ... I didn't talk to Edwards about it because he was a co-sponsor of that particular resolution, whereas a lot of us were trying to fight for more restrictive language. Being in the minority, you couldn't get that restrictive language at that time. So what happened the day after the bill was passed? Hillary Clinton and Robert Byrd went down and submitted another bill which further restricted, attempted to restrict the ability for the president to act. But in actual fact, those who were there are the debate will remember that the American people and the U.S. Congress were sold on this resolution not because the president wanted to go to war, because he said publicly, I do not want this resolution to go to war. I want this resolution so I can get to the United Nations and get intrusive inspections. That's what Colin Powell said. That's what the president of the United States said and that's what they got. They got a resolution that permitted the president of the United States to go to the U.N. and get intrusive inspections. The great betrayal of the America people is not in that Resolution. It was in the president not allowing the inspections to reach their natural conclusions. Her short circuited the process. That is the betrayal of the country. That is the betrayal of the Congress. That's the betrayal of the American people. That's the betrayal of the world. People who don't remember that are trying to spin this for their own particular short-term partisan interest and they should not be allowed to get away with it. The most important thing of course now, that aside, ... is what is it going to take to get out of there in a way that, one, protects our national security interests, which has been terribly compromised in the region. ... ..""

If you want to call Joe Wilson a liar, you'll be in the same company as George Bush.