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Old 06-24-2008, 08:59 AM   #29 (permalink)
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True enough on free speech, but in a true democracy all people regardless of their political beliefs need to be allowed to compete for power in the power structure. Otherwise its not really a democracy, at least for the people who are denied access to the power structure.


In the face of Iran's race to obtain nuclear power, Israel signed a contract with Germany last month to buy two Dolphin-class submarines that will, according to foreign reports, provide superior second-strike nuclear capabilities, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The submarines will be assembled in Germany and provided with a propulsion system allowing them to remain underwater for far longer than the submarines currently in the Israel Navy's fleet.(contd)

Exclusive: Israel buys 2 German subs | Jerusalem Post
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The Germans have learned about the business end of things, fine capitalists that they are. It was Germans and Brazilians that souped up the scuds for Saddam, and provided the early plumbing and hardware for the missles to carry chemical and biological warheads. Thankfully, Scott Ritter and crew destroyed all that shit, but somewhere I bet, are the plans for all that stuff. Yet another shining example of Rumsfeld's commitment to world peace...

edit- my source for that is Ritter's book "Waging Peace"
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Launch tubes can also serve for conventional missiles as well, so it's not strictly a stealthy nation killer. However, how can we expect better when the U.S. is perp number one for fanning Isreli/Palestinian flames.
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This is one area where the U.S. is decades ahead of most European countries, in that we advanced civil rights and the address of racial injustice as a result of the variety of demographics.
....Decades ahead? Really?
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France's government still ghettoizes their Pakistani and Morrocan immigrants, and- of course, leave them poverty and unemployment.
...Now that may not be the French gov't's fault, and -- how do I say this? -- the US has some impressive ghettos too, J. Some of it's inevitable with influx as it is, but you haven't experienced police choppers practically sitting on your apartment building's roof often enough to become commonplace (nor have I, but my classmates who'd rented a place in Compton did)

Julia wrote that she lived in France, she'd have some observations to share
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