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Old 06-25-2008, 11:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by itsmeeeeeee View Post
yes, it's great sportsmanship, but actually, it's also nothing new. it's just that normally you don't hear about it because the debts normally aren't so astronomical.
I don't know about this. I can't find anything that indicates that others have ended up in debt. Kerry and Gore had surpluses.

You have any examples?

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obama can't give clinton a dime of his money - that's all tightly regulated.

what he CAN do is what he's doing - and it benefits him just as much as it benefits her. they campaign together, and have fundraisers - she tells her supporters to get behind him (the dead-enders who haven't already gotten on the bandwagon) which helps him a lot and his appearances with her encourages people to help her pay off her debt. this is standard operating procedure in all major races.
Can't find an example of this either---tried to see if Bush helped McCain pay off debt in 2000 --- can't find it.

Are we sure this is not just another "conventional wisdom" thing the press has created?

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what's different is MOST losing opponents don't go this far in debt. and according to the articles i've read, she isn't asking for help to pay back any of her own personal loans to her campaign (evidently they are just willing to write that off) but rather the rest of the debt, which is still quite considerable - an unprecedented amount.
Her husband commands that much annually in speaking fees. They could pay it off.

They had no business running up this much debt without a plan A and plan B for paying it off.

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it was the height of stupidity of her to go THAT far in debt considering it was so obvious she couldn't win for SO long.

and there's the rub.

i get that.

but i also get that the party MUST unify and heal all the division her refusal to concede has caused - so i'm sure obama considers encouraging people to help her as precisely what it is - a VERY unfortunate and otherwise unnecessary part of the operating cost of winning this unusual primary
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given the posts at all the Hillary sites I would not suggest that is a very good bet on the part of Obama.

Fortunately he is only---requesting.

Hey---where are all those big money donors who had the GALL to write Pelosi?

And maybe Sheila Jackson Lee and Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Geraldine Ferraro should all pick a corner in NYC (or where ever) and elevate the political prostitution they have been practicing to a cash exchange endeavor.

Wasn't it Ferraro who suggested that Obama should tolerate her racist remarks since she was SOOOOOOOO good at fundraising?

It is a damned INSULT to all women that these worthless wenches have to beg a MAN to bail them out!

Where are all those "history making" enthusiastic fruitcakes now?
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