Should MP3 file sharing be illegal? - Page 3

Ouroboros · 01-03-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

for the same reasons that KBlair stated and the fact that I think "artists" are overpaid and we're over charged - this is what happens when you screw consumers over.

Artists are overpaid? The artists who make gobs and gobs of money represent a miniscule fraction of the total number of artists. Furthermore, do you have any idea of the time and discipline it takes to make it in the music biz? And then there's production costs, promotion costs, endless rehearsals, touring...it's very hard work. When all is said and done, most musicians are making pennies per hour.

Ouroboros · 01-03-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

Should beer sharing be illegal? Yes or No? Why?

Should car sharing be illegal? Yes or No? Why?

Should bread sharing be illegal? Yes or No? Why?

etc.

If one thing should be "free" and the pursuit of it free from any repercussions, shouldn't it all?

When you share these items, you are not giving the person an identical copy and keeping the original. Your analogies have a non bijective correlation to the initial query.

Malkavian · 01-03-2008, 03:13 PM

I said no just because i hate DRM so much... After all these years, i'm still pissed at how DRM screwed my collection of japanese porn

Alinea · 01-03-2008, 04:52 PM

Oh good grief. My analogy was to get some of you to think. How many of you sell a physical product for a living vs. working in an office? How would you make that living if everyone told you "I don't want to pay!"

Lolli · 01-03-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

Oh good grief. My analogy was to get some of you to think. How many of you sell a physical product for a living vs. working in an office? How would you make that living if everyone told you "I don't want to pay!"

And I repeat:

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Originally Posted by lollipop

If one person paid for their beer, car or bread and wanted to share it with others, it's legal. So why isn't music?

Alinea · 01-03-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

And I repeat:

And beer RUNS OUT. While some of the music on the net "shared" is not making the person sharing rich (hopefully, or they have a bigger lawsuit on their hands) - it IS taking away profit from the artist.

Would you like to show up to work tomorrow and the boss says "sorry, we paid you last week - just keep SHARING what you do."

Many bands have found ways to say FUCK YOU to this and they end up hurting their real and HONEST fans.

It really bugs me when people think intangible things should be free, if they want to continue in our current economy.

Kana · 01-03-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

If one person paid for their beer, car or bread and wanted to share it with others, it's legal. So why isn't music?

Because beer is consumable. If I buy a pint of beer and share half of it with my friend, then I only get to drink half a pint of beer, and my friend only gets half a pint of beer. If I want to drink a full pint and my friend wants to drink a full pint, one of us has to buy another beer.

Music is not consumable, so the rules are a bit different. If you lend your friend one of your CDs to listen to for a while, that's legal. But when you make a copy for your friend, that's not. In effect, you drank two pints of beer, but only paid for one.

Ouroboros · 01-03-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

Oh good grief. My analogy was to get some of you to think. How many of you sell a physical product for a living vs. working in an office? How would you make that living if everyone told you "I don't want to pay!"

I just wanted to be nerdy for a change.

Lolli · 01-03-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kana

Because beer is consumable. If I buy a pint of beer and share half of it with my friend, then I only get to drink half a pint of beer, and my friend only gets half a pint of beer. If I want to drink a full pint and my friend wants to drink a full pint, one of us has to buy another beer.

Music is not consumable, so the rules are a bit different. If you lend your friend one of your CDs to listen to for a while, that's legal. But when you make a copy for your friend, that's not. In effect, you drank two pints of beer, but only paid for one.

Thanks Kana, nicely and elequoently explained. I'm in agreement.

Ouroboros · 01-03-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

Thanks Kana, nicely and elequoently explained. I'm in agreement.

You didn't understand my post?

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