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Old 11-23-2007, 09:09 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It has often been said that it is as big a shame when a young person is a conservative as it is when a older person is liberal. One would have to agree that as a person gains knowledge and experiences in life he becomes more and more conservative.

I thought I would start my first post off with hard love.
Depends on how you define "conservative", ey? Does one mean "more supportive of tradition"? "More content with the present"? I know of people who became more radical as they aged. I prefer it that way :P

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:11 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Cash must be pretty loose then.,

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Flowing freely, I'd say.

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My favorite atmostphere.
Flowing like oil, the money is. Get in the flow.

You, I sense, know perfectly goddamn well where you stand on just about everything...to me, it is perhaps the most obvious upside of Age...and could, therefore, be a good Fake Not-Good.

A Secret Sweetheart Deal for you, then...undisclosed boucoup bucks including a Platinum Parachute.

Where shall you be, roughly, on the Fiscally-Conservative-But-Socially-Not-Weird to NeoNazi spectrum?

You will naturally want the Republicans to hold the White House, yes? Which Republican?
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:17 AM   #43 (permalink)
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It has often been said that it is as big a shame when a young person is a conservative as it is when a older person is liberal. One would have to agree that as a person gains knowledge and experiences in life he becomes more and more conservative.

I thought I would start my first post off with hard love.
Tough love. Customarily, the expression is tough love.

There are important differences between tough and hard.

Tough love IS hard. It's hard to deliver; it's hard to receive; it's debatable who's got the harder end of that bargain. But tough love is not born of hardness.

It is born of reality-based practicality, and love.

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Old 11-23-2007, 01:30 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Cash must be pretty loose then.,

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Flowing freely, I'd say.



Flowing like oil, the money is. Get in the flow.

You, I sense, know perfectly goddamn well where you stand on just about everything...to me, it is perhaps the most obvious upside of Age...and could, therefore, be a good Fake Not-Good.

A Secret Sweetheart Deal for you, then...undisclosed boucoup bucks including a Platinum Parachute.

Where shall you be, roughly, on the Fiscally-Conservative-But-Socially-Not-Weird to NeoNazi spectrum?

You will naturally want the Republicans to hold the White House, yes? Which Republican?
Are you speaking of the "real me" or the "me-who-is-devil's-advocate" me? Are they one in the same? Nope.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:49 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Are you speaking of the "real me" or the "me-who-is-devil's-advocate" me? Are they one in the same? Nope.
Does anyone really know the real wayside, I wonder? I will say, I expect it is a worthwhile but most elusive objective.

Of course, I know that You, Yourself, and You do not fall on the Fiscally-Conservative-But-Socially-Not-Weird to NeoNazi spectrum.

But DEVIL'S advocate? You assign yourself inherent disadvantage from jump street? To be a convincing standard bearer for Heartless Conservativism, you will want to assign yourself inherent ADVANTAGES...like Right. And white.

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Cash must be pretty loose then.,

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Flowing freely, I'd say.



Flowing like oil, the money is. Get in the flow.

You, I sense, know perfectly goddamn well where you stand on just about everything...to me, it is perhaps the most obvious upside of Age...and could, therefore, be a good Fake Not-Good.

A Secret Sweetheart Deal for you, then...undisclosed boucoup bucks including a Platinum Parachute.

Where shall you be, roughly, on the Fiscally-Conservative-But-Socially-Not-Weird to NeoNazi spectrum?

You will naturally want the Republicans to hold the White House, yes? Which Republican?
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Does anyone really know the real wayside, I wonder? I will say, I expect it is a worthwhile but most elusive objective.
I'm looking for the real guy myself. If I find him I'll let you know.

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Of course, I know that You, Yourself, and You do not fall on the Fiscally-Conservative-But-Socially-Not-Weird to NeoNazi spectrum.
I'm one of those guys that buys a round for the house and then, at the end of the evening, asks everyone for money. I shy away from the nazi thing because I look terrible in brown. It makes me look drawn.

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But DEVIL'S advocate? You assign yourself inherent disadvantage from jump street? To be a convincing standard bearer for Heartless Conservativism, you will want to assign yourself inherent ADVANTAGES...like Right. And white.
I can claim whiteness and I boast or rightness. Does that help?
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:23 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Oh, you're plenty real, I wouldn't give that another thought. I think there are just so MANY of us, you know? Multiple personalities, I mean, not lots of friends. Because we keep running into undiscovered aspects of ourselves, it always feels as though we haven't landed on the Real McCoy. Which we probably haven't. If we had, I expect we'd be dead.


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I'm one of those guys that buys a round for the house and then, at the end of the evening, asks everyone for money.
Hmmm. Okay. For purposes of the charade, that would make you a politician who spends money he doesn't really have to spare, who then solicits funds that aren't really due him. Here's where it gets tricky...you know, nitpicky.

In real life, you buy the house a round of drinks because you enjoy the company of your fellows and it is your pleasure to boost the general conviviality...as a hearty "Bartender, a round for the house" unfailingly does.

You mean well...not only enjoying the moment, but enjoying everyone else's enjoyment of it...yet possibly you lack awareness of the true relationship between the size of your wallet and the size of the house. More likely, once the house is drinking rounds, everyone loses awareness of all kinds of stuff and all manner of revised circumstances come to pass before the night is through.

As a Modern Conservative, you can play this one of two ways. You can either take from the very people you profess to help, the money that you use to help them. Or, you put a pipeline between the public trough and the moneyed interests that get you elected and re-elected, and that otherwise underwrite your hifalutin life style, continually replenishing the trough with money from people you never helped but also never professed to service.



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I shy away from the nazi thing because I look terrible in brown. It makes me look drawn.
You surely wouldn't want that...might make people think of Drawn & Quartered which, since torture's back in vogue, is perhaps a little close to home for certain of the people, certain Republican senators in particular, who have called themselves conservative under the Bush Administration. Neo-Nazi is out.

But I can't see you doing the navy-blue-suit-with-assortment-of-brighter-is-in-ties thing, either. Your economics aren't as brutal as we'd like but, if you will approach this with more of a "The Most Important Person In The World Is Me And The Most Important Thing In The World Is Money" attitude, we can cast you as one of the faux relaxed Republicans.

I believe it is as important to know if a person looks weird/off/uncomfortable/goofy when they dress down as it is to know if they look weird/off/uncomfortable/goofy when they dress up...do you agree?

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I can claim whiteness and I boast or rightness. Does that help?
Of course! You sound as though you are still vying for the job when, the bottom line is, I thought is was a done deal.

Boasting of Rightness is a mainstay of Modern Conservativism.

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I completely screwed up the quote thing, sorry.

Cast as a conservative, you will want to avoid issue of any apology, by the way...it is unmanly.
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I completely screwed up the quote thing, sorry.

Cast as a conservative, you will want to avoid issue of any apology, by the way...it is unmanly.
Oh no! Am I experiencing shrinkage????
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Oh no! Am I experiencing shrinkage????
I don't know...are you?

But you now represent Ruling Republicans, remember? You must learn to twist and torque the language...you know, put a SPIN on things. Shortages are gloomy.

Shortage, surplus...it's all how you finesse it. A shortage of tax revenue, for instance, is more constructively viewed as opportunity for EXPANSION of the tax code.

Get it?
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