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Old 03-09-2008, 11:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think that we just need the money.
The creeps have spent so much on the war and Ken Starr wasted so much money on Clinton that people balk at that sort of expense.

I think that trial and prison would not hurt him enough.
Do you?
I think flailing and drawing and quartering are too good for TheDick.
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OK let’s review.

We know the TheDick has penchant for secrecy and subverting the legal process. “Cheney's proposal had become a military order from the commander in chief. Foreign terrorism suspects held by the United States were stripped of access to any court -- civilian or military, domestic or foreign.”

And we have discovered that he is a power mad sociopath: “…for edge-of-the-envelope views on executive supremacy that previous presidents did not assert. “

Perhaps his role in this administration is as follows:

Waxing or waning, Cheney holds his purchase on an unrivaled portfolio across the executive branch. ... Cheney, they said, inhabits an operational world in which means are matched with ends and some of the most important choices are made. When particulars rise to presidential notice, Cheney often steers the preparation of options and sits with Bush, in side-by-side wing chairs, as he is briefed.
Before the president casts the only vote that counts, the final words of counsel nearly always come from Cheney.


A little backstory on TheDick will help, he is a draft-dodger and flunked out of Yale. Then began his long criminal career in politics:
“..-- before abandoning the doctoral program and heading to Washington as a junior congressional aide.
He went on to build an unmatched Washington resume as White House chief of staff, House minority whip and secretary of defense
.” He then continued his criminal ways when he,”… shifted his focus to a lucrative stint as chairman of Halliburton, an oil services company.”

His power in this administration is stated as “Cheney preferred, and Bush approved, a mandate that gave him access to "every table and every meeting," making his voice heard in "whatever area the vice president feels he wants to be active in," Bolten said. “ and most painfully felt by his involvement, “Other close aides noted, as well, a major role for Cheney in nominations and appointments.”

But not man enough to conduct his business in the open, he hides somewhere in “an undisclosed location”, while surrogates carry out his instructions. Such as those carried out by hunting buddy Anton Scalia who appointed him to office: “While lawyers fought over the 2000 Florida ballot recount, with the presidential election in the balance, Cheney was already populating a prospective Bush administration…” at the time, like today; “…Across the board, the vice president's office goes to unusual lengths to avoid transparency

Once in power he began to build his criminal organization. “Close allies found positions as chief and deputy chief of the Office of Management and Budget, deputy national security adviser, undersecretary of state, and assistant or deputy assistant secretary in numerous Cabinet departments. Other loyalists -- …turned up in less senior, but still significant, posts.”

His main fear is that Junior will somehow screw his plans up, so “Cheney insists on joining Bush by secure video link, no matter how many time zones divide them.” So criminal are his associations that he “… ordered the Secret Service to destroy his visitor logs.” To cover all activities, even though every agency in the government sends his office information, “… high-ranking White House officials said in interviews that almost nothing flows out.”
September 11, gave TheDick all the presumption to carry out his evil plans. Before the bodies were cold, he, “…began planning for a conflict that would call upon lawyers as often as soldiers and spies” A conflict that would he would direct, and profit from. To be continued…
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I think flailing and drawing and quartering are too good for TheDick.

I have a dream

I HAVE A DREAM!

I dream that Cheney will be shirtless, shoeless, moneyless,
foodless and phoneless
and
dropped onto a barren roof in Harlem in the winter.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have a dream

I HAVE A DREAM!

I dream that Cheney will be shirtless, shoeless, moneyless,
foodless and phoneless
and
dropped onto a barren roof in Harlem in the winter.
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I have dream that on January 20, 2009, as their planes are winging back to Texas and Wyoming they suddenly and quietly fall off the radar screens. The next day Dick Cheney is somewhere in Eastern Europe at a “black site”, naked, upside down being “interrogated” about all the money from Iraqi contractors and other crimes against humanity. At other sites around the world Condi and Rummy and Wolfie are undergoing the same “enhanced interrogation techniques”

The new AG has begun an investigation that will lead to the smug and snotty spouses of these criminals thrown into the streets and all their property seized to help pay down the nation debt of their creation. Those man-sized safes have been seized and opened and found inside is the payoff receipt for hunting buddy Scalia for appointing him VeeP. Scalia commits suicide in shame. This also voids the Shrub’s Supreme Court appointments, “fruit of the poisoned tree” and all.

A litany of Congressional investigations have begun with corporate records of contractors being seized and CEOs of many corporations going to jail for war profiteering, fraud and rape. Unknown crimes are uncovered and many are turning state’s evidence

Meanwhile the current Press Secretary has no comment on the inordinate number of personnel missing from the previous administration.


To be continued...
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Enhanced!
I love you.
May you find wonderfulness in all that you do.

The spouses thrown and property seized is good but
the enhancing will have to happen from within.
It will have to be a few of C's most trusted guards that can't take it anymore.
They have to make the decision.
Then it will happen.
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Enhanced!
I love you.
May you find wonderfulness in all that you do.

The spouses thrown and property seized is good but
the enhancing will have to happen from within.
It will have to be a few of C's most trusted guards that can't take it anymore.
They have to make the decision.
Then it will happen.
No, the Secret Sevice serves at the behest of the President. He rescinds that protection and places US Marshalls to escort them to Bulgarian custody, where they are "interrogated". Somewhere in Texas, Fredo is swimming back across the Rio Grande to wind up as the MC for the Donkey Show In Tijuana. Condi has moved to Russia and is living under the protection of Vlad. But when he gets tired of that Brown Sugar he sends her back to face "questioning".
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Know your enemy

A Strong Push From Backstage
By Jo Becker and Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, June 26, 2007; Page A01

Air Force Two touched down at the Greenbrier Valley Airport in West Virginia on Feb. 6, 2003, carrying Vice President Cheney to the annual retreat of Republican House and Senate leaders. He had come to sell them on the economic centerpiece of President Bush's first term: a $674 billion tax cut

When the president announced his economic package the day after this Cabinet meeting in January 2003, Cheney had one more thing to add.

Cheney had spent months making sure the package contained everything he wanted. One thing was missing.

The president had accepted Cheney's diagnosis that the sluggish economy needed a jolt, overruling senior economic advisers who forecast dangerous budget deficits. But Bush rejected one of Cheney's remedies: deep reductions in the capital gains tax on investments.

The vice president "was just hot on that," said Cesar Conda, then Cheney's domestic policy adviser. "It goes to show you: He wins and he loses, and he lost on that one."

Not for long.

As the Republican lawmakers debated in a closed-door session at the Greenbrier resort, the vice president revived the argument, touting his idea as a way to energize a stock market battered by scandals such as Enron. House allies inserted Cheney's cut into their package. But that came at the expense of one of Bush's priorities: abolishing the tax on stock dividends.

Cheney has changed history more than once, earning his reputation as the nation's most powerful vice president. His impact has been on public display in the arenas of foreign policy and homeland security, and in a long-running battle to broaden presidential authority. But he has also been the unseen hand behind some of the president's major domestic initiatives.

Scores of interviews with advisers to the president and vice president, as well as with other senior officials throughout the government, offer a backstage view of how the Bush White House operates. The president is "the decider," as Bush puts it, but the vice president often serves up his menu of choices.

Cheney led a group that winnowed the president's list of potential Supreme Court nominees. Cheney resolved a crisis in the space program after the Columbia shuttle disaster. Cheney fashioned a controversial truce between the legislative and executive branches -- and averted resignations at the top of the Justice Department and the FBI -- over the right of law enforcement authorities to investigate political corruption in Congress.

And it was Cheney who served as the guardian of conservative orthodoxy on budget and tax matters. He shaped and pushed through Bush's tax cuts, blunting the influence of Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, a longtime friend, and of Cabinet rivals he had played a principal role in selecting. He managed to overcome the president's "compassionate conservative" resistance to multiple breaks for the wealthy. He even orchestrated a decision to let a GOP senator switch parties -- giving control of the chamber to Democrats -- rather than meet the senator's demand for billions of dollars in new spending.

On the home front, the vice president is well known for leading a secretive task force on energy policy. But in a town where politicians routinely scurry for credit, Cheney more often kept his role concealed, even from top Bush advisers.

"A lot of it was a black box, and I think designedly so," said former Bush speechwriter David Frum. "It was like -- you know that experiment where you pass a magnet under the table and you see the iron filings on the top of the table move? You know there's a magnet there because of what you see happening, but you never see the magnet."



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A Strong Push From Backstage (con'td)

A 'More Effective Role'

When Bush tapped Cheney to be his running mate seven years ago, he chose a man who had put a great deal of thought into how a vice president can transform himself from a funeral-trotting figurehead into a center of real power.

As President Gerald R. Ford's chief of staff in the 1970s, Cheney saw firsthand how White House policies got shaped -- and how a vice president such as Nelson Rockefeller could become so marginalized as to be dumped from the ticket. Former Army secretary John O. Marsh Jr. said Cheney knew that he needed to control the process by which the president makes choices to ride "the rushing river of power" that winds through the West Wing to the Oval Office.

"Dick's major concern, one of them was, and I agree, that there needs to be a greater and more effective role for the vice president," Marsh, a longtime Cheney friend, said in an interview. "He holds the view, as do I, that the vice president should be the chief of staff in effect, that everything should run through his office."
In Bush, Cheney found the perfect partner. The president's willingness to delegate left plenty of room for his more detail-oriented vice president.

"My impression is that the president thinks that the Reagan style of leadership is best -- guiding the ship of state from high up on the mast," said former White House lawyer Bradford A. Berenson. "It seems to me that the vice president is more willing to get down in the wheelhouse below the decks."

When the space shuttle Columbia disintegrated over Texas on Feb. 1, 2003, for example, Bush was consumed with concern for the families of the seven dead astronauts. That left Cheney to make the first critical decisions about the future of manned spaceflight.
Even as the vice president and others were grappling with the invasion of Iraq, Cheney crafted a solution to the most pressing problem facing the space program, said former NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe, a Cheney protege.

With its shuttle fleet grounded, the space agency had no way to resupply the crew aboard the international space station, including two Americans. Russia was demanding $100 million to take up the slack. But Congress had barred space-related payments to Moscow unless the administration could certify that the Russians were not transferring banned technology to Iran for nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. Getting the law changed would take time, and could "open up a can of worms" with no guarantee that the result would be to the administration's liking, O'Keefe said.

The vice president's solution, he said, was to get around the law by cutting the deal as a barter. The Russians wouldn't charge the United States for the costs of flying to the space station, and in return, the Americans wouldn't charge the Russians for their share of some operating and equipment costs.

The vice president then took the lead in persuading the State Department to go along with the plan, which never came to public attention. "He helped frame how to do this without a major diplomatic dust-up," O'Keefe said.

Last year, Cheney was behind another unprecedented and controversial deal that inserted the White House into an ongoing criminal probe.

When the FBI seized files from the office of Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.) as part of a bribery investigation, House Republican leaders erupted. With a number of their own members under investigation for other matters, they charged that the search violated the Constitution. They demanded the return of the files.

Cheney quickly gravitated toward the House's position, aides said, but Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales; his top deputy, Paul J. McNulty; and FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III threatened to resign if forced to hand over evidence they believed had been properly collected under a warrant.

White House Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten called a meeting on May 25, 2006, to resolve the political and legal crisis. The president's lawyers and congressional liaison were in the room, and so was Cheney. Once again, it was the vice president who came up with a solution, according to a participant. Cheney's plan met his goal of keeping the files from federal investigators. The files would be placed under seal for 45 days. Within hours of the meeting, Bush made Cheney's recommendation official. As often happens in government, delay was decisive. Jefferson was indicted earlier this month on 16 counts of bribery, racketeering, fraud, money laundering and obstruction of justice. But nearly half of the files remain off-limits, tied up in legal disputes.
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I want to whole Lonnica Moooinski stuff done to Jeff Gannon

and I want Ken Starr to be forced to do it without pay.



Will it be fun to have them 'questioned' in private without the
necessary glee?


I say that it has to be public,
it has to take all their money
and it has to have effective shame,
tailored for each person,
and it has to be on-going,
no end in sight.

I also want Mrs. B. Bush, the senior,
to spend the rest of her life in Saudi in an abaya
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I want to whole Lonnica Moooinski stuff done to Jeff Gannon

and I want Ken Starr to be forced to do it without pay.



Will it be fun to have them 'questioned' in private without the
necessary glee?


I say that it has to be public,
it has to take all their money
and it has to have effective shame,
tailored for each person,
and it has to be on-going,
no end in sight.

I also want Mrs. B. Bush, the senior,
to spend the rest of her life in Saudi in an abaya
LOL My, you are creative. I would forego the vicarious and voyueristic joy of seeing them "interrogated", just to know they are answering for their crimes.
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