Originally Posted by Chantytown

Bullshit.

Any acceptance of public finance was always predicated on 1) free airtime for both candidates and 2) strict control of 527 slanders.

McCain hs made it clear he won't consider the latter, so fuck that noise.

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

Like drilling off the Florida coast.
I've been against it, as a resident of Florida.
But after seeing the rigs survive Katrina, and crude prices reaching new records every day,
there are new reasons in the ground to change that position.

Originally Posted by poetrychic

now c'mon, those facts weren't reported in the article and you can't expect them to actually take the initiative to research what they're being fed to find out if indeed it's the truth or bits and pieces might have been left out for "a better read"...it's unamerican to report all the facts and it's unamerican to question if the truth is being completely presented, it's also unamerican to accept the facts as such when they are brought to a person's attention because that would mean they had been wrong and falsely assumed something to be truth...

Originally Posted by DRS112

More whining....what a sad, pathetic, bitter oldman you've turned into.

Originally Posted by julia

hey michelem-
Since you are Canadian would you mind telling usl how elections are financed in Canada?

I believe most other "developed" countries have some sort of public financing or at least spending caps on elections.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by OldManOnFire

First it was war-mongering towards Iran.

Then NAFTA is suddenly an okay program.

Today it is this:

June 19, 2008
Breaking: Obama decides to decline public financing
Posted: 09:28 AM ET

From CNN Political Unit

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Barack Obama has decided not to accept public financing for his campaign, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee told supporters Thursday.

In an e-mail message, Obama said his decision means that his campaign will forego over $80 million in public funds.

In exchange for taking public funds, candidates usually agree to a cap on the amount of money they can spend on their campaigns.

"It's not an easy decision, and especially because I support a robust system of public financing of elections," Obama wrote. "But the public financing of presidential elections as it exists today is broken, and we face opponents who've become masters at gaming this broken system."

Obama has repeatedly broken campaign fundraising records during the Democratic primary season. Since January of 2007, has raised over $272 million.

Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, raised less than half of that, roughly $100 million, over the same period.

His advisers argue that the Illinois Democrat has setup a "parallel" public fundraising system by soliciting small donations over the Internet.

Two months ago, McCain criticized Barack Obama for appearing to backtrack from a previous commitment to accept public financing for his presidential campaign.

Steve Schmidt, a senior McCain adviser, told CNN that Obama's decision to opt out of the public financing system "a broken promise of staggering dimensions.

"Obama's candidacy is based on words and it seems like everyday


What will #4 be????

Originally Posted by winthrop

I urge you to reconsider that position.
The following is according to the Energy Information Administration
of the Department of Energy.

Mean estimates from the [Minerals Management Service] indicate that technically recoverable resources currently off limits in the lower 48 OCS (Outer Continental Shelf) total 18 billion barrels of crude oil and 77 trillion cubic feet of natural gas....

The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.