Tough Love - Page 5

Cookie · 06-25-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Comicsartist

Because we're all commenting on his original post. He also failed to provide any link whatsoever to the article. How are we to know if it's an actual article or not? Surely you don't expect us to take his word for it. Hell, he even states: This is from an article I read a couple of months ago.

Are we to believe he remembers the entire 'article' he read a couple of months ago?

I can assure you, that article was written by Dr. Sowell, of whom I am quite familiar.

DanS. · 06-25-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapseats

You would rather live when you live than at any other time...that defines "progress of a species and a country"? People prefer what they know. Familiarity may breed contempt in some but, in most, it is like salve on a burn. People don't like uncertainty and, the ruckus surrounding Obama notwithstanding, people don't like change.

You define provincialism and myopia, too, you must realize that. Being satisfied with what is speaks to complacency, lack of inquisitiveness, superficiality, tradition, habit, laziness and fear at least as much as it speaks to progress.

Preferring to be who we are, where we are, when we are is kinda key to the pursuit of happiness in a life that promises death. We would be assured of death AND spend a lifetime wishing we lived at a different time of life? How depressed do we wanna get?

You have defined neither your generation, nor progress of the species, nor progress of a country. On the country dealie, you can't even say that

whookay...I didn't say the present was perfect, only that I would prefer it to the past.

But anyways...We have greater wealth than we did at any other point in time in history...things that were luxuries in previous generation are common place even among the poor. We are living longer inspite of living unhealthier by choice. Jobs require less phsyical labor, information is available at the click of a button. We haven't seen a great depression or a multiple World Wars or mass murder on the scale and efficiency that the Germans carried out. Formerly third world countries are growing up, becoming more prosperous and at the same time many of their governments are affording their citizens more freedoms...times have changed for the better as a whole....

Or would you have me believe that we have not progressed since some previous time?

DanS. · 06-25-2008, 01:35 PM

Generation Y Myths Debunked

Cookie · 06-25-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by W.M.DEEEZ

You know I love ya Cookie, but you know what the intent is here.

Try inserting the name Bush, wherever you see the name Obama, and see how his op reads.

And tell me what you think about this snippet.

You think that we should abandon past policies, just because they supposedly didn't work 70 years ago?

I can think of no better time to try something simple, to undo the mess we are in.

I think inserting the name Bush is irrelevant at this point. And aside from his huge spending to fund the war, his presidency hasn't been all that bad. He addressed the cost of prescription drugs, something that hadn't been done before. Tried to take a different approach to funding social security. Lowered taxes on those who drive business and employment. He's had some successes.

Whether we like to think about it or not, Mr. Obama hasn't really proven himself much on the political stage, and his proposed tea parties with our enemies, enemies of democracy, seem naive at best, dangerous at worst.

Generally speaking, if something doesn't work the first time, we usually try a different approach. Democrats take a different view on foreign policy. For some reason, they can't accept that the world isn't like the Coke-a-Cola commercial from the early 70's....

cheapseats · 06-25-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DRS112

BTW...if you look up generation Me....you will get baby boomers as the result....

That's right. Those are the Me's in whom I have the confidence that you profess not to understand.

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my generation is known as generation Y....

More like, Generation Why.

Don't do anything about anything...you don't have to, Obama will fix everything...just ask and argue, ask and argue, ask and argue.

DanS. · 06-25-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapseats

That's right. Those are the Me's in whom I have the confidence that you profess not to understand.

More like, Generation Why.

Don't do anything about anything...you don't have to, Obama will fix everything...just ask and argue, ask and argue, ask and argue.

WEEEeeelll...one of the supposed virtues of my generation is that we do not trust anybody, government or business and constantly challenge authority....we are often criticized for out lack of loyalty....which IMHO runs contrary to the idea that my generation thinks that Obama can fix everything....which btw...I haven't seen/heard anybody from MY generation say that....must be a boomer thing.

serum114 · 06-25-2008, 01:44 PM

It will be a good day when rich white Americans get a little tough love. They seem to always attempt to pass the burden on down to someone else. We would be in much better shape if we were inconvenienced by odd even gas days paying only $1.75 a gallon.
While the increased price of gas now is driving up the price of groceries and everything else. To speculate how bad Obama could make things without mentioning the disastrous outcome of republican rule is nothing but party politics. Which fixes absolutely nothing. Let the tough love pendulum swing the other way the working and middle class have already felt it.

Cookie · 06-25-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

Conservative views should go in the conservatives forum. Please start using it.

I beg your pardon? Slurs against the republicans should be answered wherever they occur. If this thread was posted in the wrong place, it's not my fault.

bornright · 06-25-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xav8terx

What do you mean "if"...it's "when" he does.

So what are expecting exactly? Are you afraid he wont invade another country and refuse to borrow money from our enemies to pay for it? Will you miss the little nuggets bush left us with like: Fool me twice..oh wait, fool you once...oh forget it!! Obama does actually think before he speaks so i can see how that would create issues for you. Did gaining our allies back become a bad thing?

I do not think Obama will win but it is useless to argue back and forth about that.

I am expecting that if he were to win and still have the democratic congress that the socialist/democratic government would raise taxes beyond mine and other workers of America ability to pay. I feel the lazy would get lazier and the achievers would become depressed much like it was under the Carter administration. I feel many if not all major corporations would go under goverment control much in the manner as Maxine Waters has suggested. "Ole 60 State Obama" has a lot of changes he wants for America.

People like you will sound like the democratic Congress on voting for the war in Iraq. "If I had known the truth I would have not voted for Obama". You have heard the truth and you refuse to listen just like Congress.

cheapseats · 06-25-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DRS112

WEEEeeelll...ones of the supposed virtues of my generation is that we do not trust anybody, government or business and constantly challenge authority....

And yet, curiously, you-not-you implicitly believe everything that comes out of Obama's mouth, even when his actions are diametrically opposed to his words. Americans, Democrats in particular, are unfailingly gullible.

That's why Scamming is one of our biggest industries and principal exports.

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we are often criticized for out lack of loyalty....

Can't say I've heard that charge leveled at "your people." Next time someone accuses you of lack of loyalty, try this:

"The reason we have so few loyalties is because we are third-generation consumers of products with built-in obsolescence." That oughtta shut 'em up.

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which IMHO runs contrary to the idea that my generation thinks that Obama can fix everythig....which btw...I haven't seen/heard anybody from MY generation say that....must be a boomer thing.

Just as well, then, that I didn't include observant or insightful in a list of your attributes.

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