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Old 11-23-2007, 12:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Did anyone know that Lady Bird was heavily invested in the company that made the helicopters that went to Viet Nam? And Johnson was right there to board Air Force 1 to get sworn in so Jackie wasn't able to be at her husband casket's side during the flight back to DC.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Kennedy was going to withdraw from Vietnam and abolish the Federal Reserve. Either one would get him killed.
Witnesses said Johnson ducked 40 seconds before JFK was shot.
Who knows?
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Seems to me that Bush #41 didn't start always being referred to as H.W. until Dubya #43 showed up.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Witnesses said Johnson ducked 40 seconds before JFK was shot.
Who knows?

Probably when he saw those secret service guys clearing out ....
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Did anyone know that Lady Bird was heavily invested in the company that made the helicopters that went to Viet Nam? And Johnson was right there to board Air Force 1 to get sworn in so Jackie wasn't able to be at her husband casket's side during the flight back to DC.
If his body was actually in that casket. They say his body was whisked away for an impromptu autopsy and clean-up before the "official" autopsy.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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V. Bugliosi

Any one catch his new book?

Called, "Oswald did it and he was alone and shut the fuck up?"

Someone, who's opinion I respect, mentioned to me yesterday, "have you heard the theory that Manson was a plant (psychotic one) to undermine the 'hippy anti-war' crowd'.

Bugliosi made his name there very loudly and, in my mind, deservedly, Helter Skelter was diligent and respectable.

40 years later he finally releases his book - when even un-informed citizens are going

Either I'm a crazy conspiracist or these fuckers are dangerous and sick.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Any one catch his new book?

Called, "Oswald did and he was alone and shut the fuck up?"

Someone, who's opinion I respect, mentioned to me yesterday, "have you heard the theory that Manson was a plant (psychotic one) to undermine the 'hippy anti-war' crowd'.

Bugliosi made his name there very loudly and, in my mind, deservedly, Helter Skelter was diligent and respectable.

40 years later he finally releases his book - when even un-informed citizens are going

Either I'm a crazy conspiracist or these fuckers are dangerous and sick.
Anyone who says that Manson was a patsy is fucking crazy! Ever hear this guy? I know he's nuts, but he was no patsy.

Bugliosi was a very good prosecutor - he turned author and became Mr. Know-It-All; too bad - smart guy.
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Anyone who says that Manson was a patsy is fucking crazy! Ever hear this guy? I know he's nuts, but he was no patsy.

Bugliosi was a very good prosecutor - he turned author and became Mr. Know-It-All; too bad - smart guy.
Yes, let me re-phrase that. He was crazy and his situation was used to further an agenda - anti-hippy, anti-war.

Is manson crazy? Fuck yea! And easily duped.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:02 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes, let me re-phrase that. He was crazy and his situation was used to further an agenda - anti-hippy, anti-war.

Is manson crazy? Fuck yea! And easily duped.
I wouldn't doubt that authorities took advantage of it for their own "benefit". But saying that (which I've heard) Manson was a patsy and that the rest of his group was to blame for those murders...do you really believe that?
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I wouldn't doubt that authorities took advantage of it for their own "benefit". But saying that (which I've heard) Manson was a patsy and that the rest of his group was to blame for those murders...do you really believe that?
No. What I do believe is that an obscure cult was elevated and kept in the public conscience for years. They were equated with the hippy-movement. Which had a dampening effect on the anti-war movement at the time.

They took a turd and made it blossom into something that suited their objectives.
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