Save your sanctimonious crap for someone who cares. Part 2 - Page 51

Duvidoo · 11-26-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

All of the above.

The people that were the passengers are living on the far side of the moon, preparing their base for the coming rapture.

They should try and meet up with Herf and Nettles (or was it Bo and Peep?) out by the Halle Bopp comet. Then they could all rapture together.

brian_wilbanks · 11-26-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

No offense taken but lets look at the difference between gasoline and diesel, since you mentioned it.

Gasoline is often thought of as being a single chemical, but it's actually a complex mixture of hydrocarbons that generally have 4 to 12 carbon atoms in their molecules. In the case of gasoline made from Oklahoma crude oil, "5 compounds make up 29% of the gasoline fraction, whereas 20 compounds make up 59% of the gasoline fraction" (reference 1). Diesel fuel is a light oil that is heavier than gasoline, composed of hydrocarbons generally having between 10 and 20 carbon atoms in their molecules (2). The point is, gasoline and diesel fuel aren't the same.

Gasoline is typically burned in spark-ignition internal combustion engines, in which a source of energy (a spark) is required to start the ignition process. Simply put, these engines mix gasoline vapor and air, compress the result, apply a spark to initiate combustion, and then force the byproducts of combustion out as exhaust. Gasoline is well suited to this process, although sometimes either it or engine operating conditions can cause "knock," an unwanted and destructive condition in which a portion of the fuel ignites spontaneously due to compression alone, without the aid of the spark.

And diesel

Diesel fuel is typically burned in compression-ignition internal combustion engines, which draw in air and subject it to high compression (much higher than in a gasoline engine), causing it become very hot. At peak temperature and pressure, diesel fuel is injected into the cylinder and self-ignites (autoignition). After combustion is complete, the combustion byproducts are exhausted out of the engine. Sometimes, such as on cold days, electrically heated devices called "glow plugs" are used to provide extra heat for starting, but these play no role once the engine is warmed up.

Diesel fuel is rated not by octane number but something called a cetane number. The cetane number gauges the ease with which the diesel fuel will autoignite when compressed. Higher cetane numbers indicate easier self-ignition and better engine operation, whereas a higher octane fuel would be more resistant to self-ignition under compression

You were the one who posted the concrete block/chickenwire experiment weren't you?

let me give you one to try:

Build a couple of small brush piles. Spray them both with water. and wait about an hour or until most of the water is gone and the pile is just good and damp.

Then douse each pile..one with gas and the other with diesel.

You'll find that the gas is easier to light,(STAND BACK) but burns away quickly and leaves the brush pile with a cold, disapointing whisps of smoke.

Now light the pile you doused with diesel. You will probably have to use some rolled up newspaper as a torch to get it to light. But once the diesel catches fire, most likely it will burn hot enough and long enough to dry the pile out so it will continue to burn.

Either way, diesel burns hotter than gasoline.

It contains more energy,but it is released more slowly.

eagleclaw · 11-26-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wayside

First off how about stating your source, unles you want us to believe that you just let it ramble and this posting is the result. Secondly, what does any of this information have to do with any of the postings on this thread? Are you now starting a ?glow plug theory?"

No my dear wayside, I was only trying to help out Mr. willbanks with his diesel fuel theory as it relates to combustion and such. I appreciate your concern but this really is between Mr. willbanks and myself.

Have a pleasant evening.

Toodles, and tell the misses I send my regards.

eagleclaw · 11-26-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

You were the one who posted the concrete block/chickenwire experiment weren't you?

let me give you one to try:

Build a couple of small brush piles. Spray them both with water. and wait about an hour. Then douse each pile..one with gas and the other with diesel.

You'll find that the gas is easier to light,(STAND BACK) but burns away quickly and leaves the brush pile with a cold, disapointing whisps of smoke.

Now light the pile you doused with diesel. You will probably have to use some rolled up newspaper as a torch to get it to light. But once the diesel catches fire, most likely it will burn hot enough and long wnough to fry the pile out so it will continue to burn.

Either way, diesel burns hotter than gasoline.

It contains more energy,but it is released more slowly.

Ah ha, you remember that experiment, don't you? It was classic and should have recieved more attention then it did.

How about if I pissed on the brush first after drinking a 12 pack? Would that upset the balance of the cetane rating of the diesel? Sorta like a NOS boost to the brush?

brian_wilbanks · 11-26-2007, 07:10 PM

Diesel engines get better gas mileage than gasoline engines too. Once again proving that diesel contains more energy than gasoline.

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_liquids.htm

look at the difference in specific gravity between the two.

wayside · 11-26-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

No my dear wayside, I was only trying to help out Mr. willbanks with his diesel fuel theory as it relates to combustion and such. I appreciate your concern but this really between Mr. willbanks and myself.

Have a pleasant evening.

Toodles, and tell the misses I send my regards.

I keep the "misses" as far away from vermin as I can...hence no regards from you. Next, it's a public board and I'll comment on any post I wish. Last, you gave a brief review on the difference between gasoline and diesel that had no relation to BW's post as it contained absolutely no information that was either pertinent or timely.

I really don't care what kind of evening you have.

You claiming authorship or are you going to 'fess up and post a source?

eagleclaw · 11-26-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvidoo

If you blow her up I'll never be able to complete the task of obtaining her (ahem) vital statistics! Don't you dare!

Oh shit dude, I didn't even know she was here. Hi anhilla, how is everything in Iowa.

brian_wilbanks · 11-26-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

How about if I pissed on the brush first after drinking a 12 pack? Would that upset the balance of the cetane rating of the diesel? Sorta like a NOS boost to the brush?

You're a real jokester. But it shows you're not at all serious about this.

I dont even know why I continue to try.

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Ah ha, you remember that experiment, don't you? It was classic and should have recieved more attention then it did.

The experiment was as lame as anything I've ever seen. A concrete block and chickenwire mockup to test how a 1,000 foot erector set would/should fall after being hit by a 150,000 pound hunk of aluminum and steel flying 500 mph. ...REAL thorough experiment did ya see that one in High Times?????

My experiment just proves it's easier to start a large fire with diesel than gasoline.

cronincal · 11-26-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

Diesel engines get better gas mileage than gasoline engines too. Once again proving that diesel contains more energy than gasoline.

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_liquids.htm

look at the difference in specific gravity between the two.

no fossil fuel is viable. no corn-based fuel is viable. we should not be burning any plant-life. solar charged batteries. plug in cars. that's the ticket.

anhailla · 11-26-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

Oh shit dude, I didn't even know she was here. Hi anhilla, how is everything in Iowa.

errrr...ummmm
your being nice to me? ok, great.

everything is fine here in ole' ioway
getting ready to caucus

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