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Old 11-27-2007, 12:09 PM   #601 (permalink)
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http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9.../gz/boyle.html

try that one

here's the one to Nigro

http://911guide.googlepages.com/danielnigro

those are the two I used
so..there it is
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:12 PM   #602 (permalink)
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This just goes to show how desperately the conspiracy theorists want to believe in their theory.

A fire chief (who lost hundreds of his co-workers and friends that day) outlined precisely why he believed wtc7 would fall, and why he cleared a collapse zone.

They didn't even give a passing thought to his words. They immediately looked for excuses to ignore or discredit him. There's something seriously wrong about that. Does anybody still really think these CTers are objectively looking for truth?

firehouse magazine is packed full of interviews with the guys on the scene

I think a "truth" seeker would be very interested in all of these interviews
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:24 PM   #603 (permalink)
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firehouse magazine is packed full of interviews with the guys on the scene

I think a "truth" seeker would be very interested in all of these interviews
They ignore anything that doesn't support their whackjob theory. I can't think of a more inappropriate use of the word "truth".
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:34 PM   #604 (permalink)
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This just goes to show how desperately the conspiracy theorists want to believe in their theory.

A fire chief (who lost hundreds of his co-workers and friends that day) outlined precisely why he believed wtc7 would fall, and why he cleared a collapse zone.

They didn't even give a passing thought to his words. They immediately looked for excuses to ignore or discredit him. There's something seriously wrong about that. Does anybody still really think these CTers are objectively looking for truth?
Fuck you. Silverstein claimed he said to pull it just before the building went down. Nigro said he pulled his men out three goddam hours before. These events do not mirror each other except in your warped excuse for a mind.
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They ignore anything that doesn't support their whackjob theory. I can't think of a more inappropriate use of the word "truth".

Strange but that applies to you to a T.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:37 PM   #606 (permalink)
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Fuck you. Silverstein claimed he said to pull it just before the building went down. Nigro said he pulled his men out three goddam hours before. These events do not mirror each other except in your warped excuse for a mind.
No..Police/Fire/Millitary protocol puts people like Silverstein on the outside looking in..Who is Silverstein or anyone else to pull rank on Police/Fire/Millitary protocol?
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:40 PM   #607 (permalink)
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How about if you start a fire and then dump some diesel fuel on it. Since it has such a high flash point would it br more likely that the fire would be smothered? Unlike gasoline, which would flare up amd burn immediatly.


The fires were not that large and did not last that long, an hour or so at the most. Do you really believe that would cause such a massive failure as what was witnessed that day?

We can go round and round on this.
Hell no it wont smother the fire.

it wont flash back like gasoline,but it will DEFINITELY make the fire bigger and hotter...instantly too.

Try putting out a fire by dousing it with diesel fuel and then get back to me with the results......
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Could'nt you have made that same statement before 911? Hm, so insights from watching 1 & 2 fall helped you intuit 7 was going to fall.


Which floors. Are you aware of any photographs?



When and where was that information gained? Did you know that before 911? Were those columns a part of the damage from #2?



How long did you fight the fire. When did the water become insufficient? At what point did you decide when it would fall?

Did you see buildings 5 and 6? How would you characterize the damage they sustained? Were they closer or further away from 1&2?

Did anyone, outside of the fire dept help you make your assessment?
Do you know for a fact that he hasn't already addressed those issues?
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Do you know for a fact that he hasn't already addressed those issues?
BW..go back and look at my posts..if you didnt already
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Lol.
Silverstein said that he talked to a fire commander who said they had made a decision to pull.
Silverstein later clarified that by "pull", he meant "pull the firemn out".
That seems entirely consistent to what Chief Nigro wrote.

The conspiracy theorists had a major part of their "case" severely damaged today.
I'm a little embarrassed for them.
"Pull" isn't even part of the lingo for a demolition team.
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