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Old 11-27-2007, 09:43 PM   #671 (permalink)
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annie, did you see this:

From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely.
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:44 PM   #672 (permalink)
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Luck is right...boy talk about being prescient!
Unless you have documented proof that links Silverstein to a conspiracy

I have a novel idea..You claim that 1/3 of Americans now believe that 9/11 was an inside job..right?

I wonder..could there possibly be any truthers working for the insurance company/companies that insured the WTC's?..Now I'll bet they would go after Silverstein like a junkyard dog, and expose him?..Ya think?..
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:50 PM   #673 (permalink)
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Was all that blabbing necessary to reach that profound conclusion
Voo Doo..You havent been accused of being the brightest bulb in the box..So if you cant do any original thinking, and look at reasonable rational possibilities..Then I suggest you pull up a chair next to the emoticon wizard, and weave baskets or something
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:50 PM   #674 (permalink)
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you disagree?
great..pull me your reference for 6.5 seconds.
I don't disagree, exactly, but the seismic event doesn't necessarily indicate the time sequence of total collapse.

Reference? I'm afraid what I've found so far is from one of those bloody truther sites!

WTC 7: A short computation
Kenneth L. Kuttler
Professor of Mathematics
Brigham Young University
Provo, Utah 84602

I provide a short computation, focused on World Trade Center building 7. Based on very favorable assumptions for achieving a fast fall, including ignoring resistance due to intact steel columns, I could only get
the building to fall in about 8.3 seconds, whereas the observed roof-fall time is approximately 6.5 seconds.

The problem is the large number of floors and conservation of momentum in a collision. Some of the “official” explanations about progressive collapse are evocative but they do not explain the difficulty in the rapid fall of the building along with what is evidently taking place when the video of the falling building is observed.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/a.../W7Kuttler.pdf
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Unless you have documented proof that links Silverstein to a conspiracy

I have a novel idea..You claim that 1/3 of Americans now believe that 9/11 was an inside job..right?

I wonder..could there possibly be any truthers working for the insurance company/companies that insured the WTC's?..Now I'll bet they would go after Silverstein like a junkyard dog, and expose him?..Ya think?..
And that truther's work for the insurance company -- so what? Silverstein went to court and fought for his billions, didn't he? Ummm...public records, right?
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here's a video of a fireman predicting building 7 collapse


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And that truther's work for the insurance company -- so what? Silverstein went to court and fought for his billions, didn't he? Ummm...public records, right?
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annie, did you see this:

From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely.
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

that means it could have taken longer SF.
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here's a video of a fireman predicting building 7 collapse


YouTube - Firefighter predicts WTC 7 collapse
Okay, how does he know the structural integrity isn't there? They weren't inside the building, were they?

I can only surmise that after seeing what happened to the towers, something which obviously none of them expected to see, they would have believed all the buildings were going to collapse.
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that means it could have taken longer SF.
True. Soon as NIST gets around to finishing its analysis of 7, I suppose we'll know what's "official", won't we?
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