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Old 11-28-2007, 07:26 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This is interesting:
Olberman announces his worst person/s in the world and the New Pork Post is number 1 due to that fact they are now calling people who believe Bush had foreknowledge of 9/11 as "idiots" even though they had a "BUSH KNEW" headline in 02.

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Old 11-28-2007, 07:50 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This is interesting:
Olberman announces his worst person/s in the world and the New Pork Post is number 1 due to that fact they are now calling people who believe Bush had foreknowledge of 9/11 as "idiots" even though they had a "BUSH KNEW" headline in 02.

YouTube - Olberman on New York Post/9/11 foreknowledge
I found that interesting also. Seems a lot of heavily skeptical people are asking more ... interesting questions.

Did you see Norman Lloyd? The most important thing, to me, to keep something else from happening "SPEAK LOUDLY". There was more to that segment than maybe meets the eye. It was a clarion call to others. KO has got basketballs.

In my crazy mind 911 was a precursor and the next will tie the knot on this bag - so if there is a 'they' they need to know there are skeptical people that might even become truthers after the next event.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I found that interesting also. Seems a lot of heavily skeptical people are asking more ... interesting questions.

Did you see Norman Lloyd? The most important thing, to me, to keep something else from happening "SPEAK LOUDLY". There was more to that segment than maybe meets the eye. It was a clarion call to others. KO has got basketballs.

In my crazy mind 911 was a precursor and the next will tie the knot on this bag - so if there is a 'they' they need to know there are skeptical people that might even become truthers after the next event.
You may be right, kimosabe. Time will tell - another event might push more people over th edge. I remember the last one. I was living in NYC temporarily last year, my son and his family were travelling from Anchorage to Florida, and literally in the middle of their journey - as they were changing planes for the second part of it, they were faced with the new "no liquids" rule - and here they are, with an infant and bottles full of formula.

I watched it as they were announcing it on TV, fuming mad, and worried about the kids not getting hassled. What a fucking joke that turned out to be.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
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No, HE Couldn't Fly Either

No, HE Couldn't Fly Either

The fact that Hani Hanjour -- the alleged pilot of the Boeing airplane which crashed into the Pentagon -- could not fly at all is now being challenged by apparent CIA informant Louai al-Sakka, who says that it was actually Nawaf al-Hazmi who piloted the plane. Al-Sakka explains that al-Hamzi was a "a veteran operative".

However, al-Hamzi was also a terrible pilot.



According to the New York Times, al-Hamzi's flight instructor, Rick Garza, said:

''They had zero training before they got here, so I told them they had to learn a lot of other things first,'' Mr. Garza said.

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Mr. Garza said that their aptitude for flying was poor from the start, and that it never improved.

''It was like Dumb and Dumber,'' Mr. Garza said. ''I mean, they were clueless. It was clear to me they weren't going to make it as pilots.''

Similarly, according to the CBC:

The two men [Khalid al Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi] signed up for lessons at a local flight school, but they were completely lacking in natural abilities. After a few sessions their instructor, Rick Garza, told them there was just no point in continuing, "They seemed to have a very strong interest in flying larger aircraft and that's when they brought up the subject of flying Boeings. 'Where can we learn to fly Boeings?' I just kind of chuckled a little bit and said -'It's a long road before you get to Boeings. Several years from now, but you have to start out in a smaller aircraft. If you can't fly the little four-seat aircraft, there is no way you are going to be able to fly a Boeing.'"

The two men reported back to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that learning to fly was a lot more difficult than expected. He was surprised, "Bin Laden and I never considered whether any special skills or talents were needed to pilot an aircraft. We thought that learning to fly an airplane was much like learning to drive a car; it was easily accomplished with the correct instruction. It was a mistake in judgment."

So the official story cannot be rescued by this "new" information from a CIA operative.

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:12 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I think using airliners was a really poor idea ... either that or they should have found some martyrs who already knew the ropes of flying jetliners. Problem is real pilots are paid so well they'd never throw it all away for a chance at 72 virgins (or raisins if some are to be believed) in Seventh Heaven. I bet Osama is saying this to Ayman in a cave somewhere in Pakistan even as I write this. "This is another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ayman."
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I think using airliners was a really poor idea ... either that or they should have found some martyrs who already knew the ropes of flying jetliners. Problem is real pilots are paid so well they'd never throw it all away for a chance at 72 virgins (or raisins if some are to be believed) in Seventh Heaven. I bet Osama is saying this to Ayman in a cave somewhere in Pakistan even as I write this. "This is another fine mess you've gotten us into, Ayman."
It was necessary. Nobody would believe that suspected Arab terrorists would be given that much access to the buildings by Larry Silverstein to plant explosives to take the buildings down. Not after the 1993 WTC bombing. Plus there is a psychological aspect of terrorists using our planes as missiles to smash them into two of our tallest buildings in the country, and the tallest in NYC.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It was necessary. Nobody would believe that suspected Arab terrorists would be given that much access to the buildings by Larry Silverstein to plant explosives to take the buildings down. Not after the 1993 WTC bombing. Plus there is a psychological aspect of terrorists using our planes as missiles to smash them into two of our tallest buildings in the country, and the tallest in NYC.

That is the the key, the PSYCHOLOGY of the attacks as it relates to to the reaction of the masses, which in turn gave BU$HCO free reign to do whatever he pleased.

And now that we have witnessed what a huge mistake that turned out to be it will be a tough task to undo the damage that has been inflicted upon us and many other parts of the world.
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