sunflower

In an effort to end speculation surrounding the events at the Pentagon building on September 11, 2001, a Freedom of Information Act request was made of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, seeking confirmation of the process by which recovered debris belonging to the 4 aircraft used in the 9/11 terrorist attacks was identified. This request was denied. An appeal of that decision has also been denied. Court action is pending.

According to the FBI, "the material requested is located in an investigative file which is exempt from disclosure pursuant to Title 5, United States Code, Section 552, subsection (b) (7) (A)."

This subsection reads: "could be reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings."

The FBI has publicly declared that certain civil aircraft were involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It apparently was not believed by the FBI, that disclosure of that information would jeopardize any September 11th "enforcement proceedings".

It is unknown why disclosure of aircraft identifying data - that is presumably the basis for the FBI's current public opinion regarding the 9/11 planes and which was likely provided by the Federal Aviation Administration or the National Transportation Safety Board - could then jeopardize FBI "enforcement proceedings".

"The National Transportation Safety Board is an independent Federal agency charged by Congress with investigating every civil aviation accident in the United States."

http://www.ntsb.gov/Abt_NTSB/history.htm

The NTSB acknowledges that it provided assistance to the FBI, regarding its investigation of the civil aircraft reportedly used during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001:

"The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI."

(See NTSB source links provided below)

The FBI currently lists American Airlines flight 11, United Airlines flight 175, American Airlines flight 77 and United Airlines flight 93, as those used to carry out the 9/11 attacks:

http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm

The National Transportation Safety Board lists the above flights on September 11, 2001 as being provided by the following aircraft, that were listed under the Federal Aviation Administration registry as follows:

American Airlines flight 11 - N334AA

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...01MA060&rpt=fa

United Airlines flight 175 - N612UA

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...01MA063&rpt=fa

American Airlines flight 77 - N644AA

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...01MA064&rpt=fa

United Airlines flight 93 - N591UA

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...01MA065&rpt=fa

Original FOIA request denial:



Original FOIA request:

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dadakarma

Wow. Very interesting.

The silence from the naysayers here is deafening.

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sunflower

Give them some time.

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dadakarma

Reading the spin on the other threads from Denie and Circus is quite amusing.

For instance did you know that I was right all along regarding "two groups" on these threads? According to Circus, there are "two groups" - because, DIDN'T YOU KNOW that the Bush administration's deceptiveness has no bearing on those "relevant experts" and the EVIDENCE they examined?

Funny how they completely miss the point that hundreds more "relevant experts" could examine what Circus's experts examined and come up with the same analyses - because the evidence was incomplete from the start. They also ignore the fact that the missing evidence necessary to solving this goes beyond debris piles - it's in emails, reports, memos, documents, communiques, SWORN testimonies (unlike last time), missing Pentagon footage, etc. I know, I know - minor details.

This FOIA request - and the denial of it - are exactly what I'm talking about. A thorough investigation has not been done TO THIS DAY.

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slowhand

What is your point?..That the info is classified, and the request to view it under the Freedom of Info act was denied?..No shit?..Its classified!

That and a buck and a half will buy you a cup of coffee..

dadakarma

Yes, we're well aware of why none of this raises any alarm bells with you. Next....

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sunflower

Exactly.

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The owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream....'cos you have to be asleep to believe it.

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slowhand

Dada, you and I both know that it is common for the govt to classify documents, and etc..How can it raise alarm bells if you cant view the documents?..This is suspicion driven by speculation

sunflower

In an effort to end speculation surrounding the events at the Pentagon building on September 11, 2001, a Freedom of Information Act request was made of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, seeking confirmation of the process by which recovered debris belonging to the 4 aircraft used in the 9/11 terrorist attacks was identified. This request was denied. An appeal of that decision has also been denied. Court action is pending.

Just in case it was missed before.

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George Carlin

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dadakarma

Slowhand, the chasm between you and I is increasing, despite your assertion of skepticism regarding the Pentagon, your suspicion of a possible 'LIHOP' scenario and your overall distrust of the Bush administration. You characterize other skeptics who've embraced and believe the towers were demolished as crazy and having such ridiculous ideas, basing that primarily because of the lack of explosion noise, so you throw the baby out with the bathwater - a demo is now unfathomable to you because of who is proposing the idea ('crazy truthers'). None of the skeptics here can produce irrefutable proof of what happened. The only entity with the authority and resources who could have proven what happened at the towers and the Pentagon (along with being forthcoming in testimony, documentation, communiques, etc.) is the Bush administration, and instead they've thwarted any thorough investigation with their deliberate destruction of key pieces of evidence. If the White House didn't have something to hide, surely they'd produce, at a minimum, substantial footage/documentation/etc. of what happened at the Pentagon. That they're now being requested to be forthcoming with ALL information is the result of six years of secrecy and lies. Surely SOME footage and information volunteered by the Bush administration would have laid the big mystery to rest a long time ago.

Cooperation by the Bush administration with a thorough investigation (neither cooperation NOR a thorough investigation has transpired to this day) is the only means of finding out what really happened. Until then, I do not rule out a number of plausible alternative scenarios. The lack of closure is frustrating, but I'm unwilling to embrace Bush's official version in exchange for peace of mind - not because I despise him (which I do), but because their version lacks credibility, due to all of the missing evidence, their refusal to cooperate, the contradictions in witness accounts, and their shitty track record.

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