Okay here's the challenge to all 911 debaters! - Page 20

sunflower · 12-02-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by voodoo

It has been well established by science that heat from common fires (gas, desks) does not melt metal. In fact, that is applied knowledge since no other steel building fell in such a manner as those 3 - ever.

More interestingly, the lady standing in the entry area of the plane. If it were 1000 degrees, how could she? There are other images of others in the same area. Why did they not melt as the steel did?

Also, there is the fact the floors, say below, 60 did not have fires on them. So, the upper floors had to crush the lower ones, like a tin can, even though the lower ones would not have lost integrity - and even if they did - from the outer 'skin' being pushed away by the fire above - the cement core would have remained.

Yep that is just speculation. That is what happens why you are lied to.

And here she is:

Edna Cintron

sunflower · 12-02-2007, 01:44 PM

Closer:

sunflower · 12-02-2007, 01:47 PM

In this 2 second video, you can make her out, waving her right arm, begging for help.

YouTube - 911 Video : Woman Waving from North...

voodoo · 12-02-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Denie

Where is it we can sign up to the "read into others statements" school you graduated from?

No, that Circus's school. Only for kiddies tho!

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Originally Posted by sunflower

Closer:

There are others as well - with more victims mysteriously withstanding the heat - only minutes before the collapse.

Those pictures turn me inside-out. Nothing boils my blood more.

Their families deserve better than what the 911 commission delivered. NOT MATTER WHAT IS THE 'TRUTH'.

slowhand · 12-02-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sunflower

You're probably right. I can also understand the no access bit to the public. But I would like to see access by professionals; hell, even NIST getting to check out the steel would be acceptable to me, if only to eliminate the possibility that there might be missed evidence to be found there.

Well because of where the steel came from, I dont see what the big deal is about not allowing independent investigators examine it..And its not like someone is going to walk off with them

sunflower · 12-02-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by voodoo

No, that Circus's school. Only for kiddies tho!

There are others as well - with more victims mysteriously withstanding the heat - only minutes before the collapse.

Those pictures turn me inside-out. Nothing boils my blood more.

Their families deserve better than what the 911 commission delivered. NOT MATTER WHAT IS THE 'TRUTH'.

Yes. Lots of them in that impact zone in the north tower, expecting helicopter rescues. My blood's been boiling for a long, long time.

sunflower · 12-02-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by slowhand

Well because of where the steel came from, I dont see what the big deal is about not allowing independent investigators examine it..And its not like someone is going to walk off with them

You'd think so, wouldn't you? I say, it if would bolster their argument, why not? Doesn't make sense to me that, if you actually have proof of what you're saying, instead of "classifying" it, provide it to the public, in some public forum or another - use your blessed MSM if you want to - wouldn't that stop all the talk about whether it happened or not, as they have claimed it did?

slowhand · 12-02-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sunflower

You'd think so, wouldn't you? I say, it if would bolster their argument, why not? Doesn't make sense to me that, if you actually have proof of what you're saying, instead of "classifying" it, provide it to the public, in some public forum or another - use your blessed MSM if you want to - wouldn't that stop all the talk about whether it happened or not, as they have claimed it did?

Even if they did allow investigators, whomever they may be, examine it..When its all said and done, I think that all that will be accomplished is to end the constroversy surrounding the imprisonment of those columns if anything..What is needed, which no one has, is the fire damaged steel at the area of the collapse

That is where the truth is

Denie · 12-02-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sunflower

Huh? Been doing a little of this today?

From the person claiming the WTC collapsed, basically into dust.
Still finding it hard it qualify that claim are you?

anhailla · 12-02-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sunflower

Huh? Been doing a little of this today?

it's a good question..your fond of saying all the evidence was hauled away

but now your claiming WTC is just dust?

which is it?

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