Jonesy

Pancake theory? Doesn't make much sense. People seem to misunderstand the idea of relativity. Two objects of equal mass, crashing into each other, will produce what effect? It's the difference between dropping a bowling ball onto a pane of glass, or dropping it onto another bowling ball. The top and bottom parts of the buildings were structured the same way. Top floors colliding into bottom floors. Would you say there was an equal and opposite reaction? The large weight, plus gravity, would have produced exactly what force? Would that force have been enough to bulldoze through the bottom part, which was supported by the ground, without slowing down?

Isn't it more likely, if any collapse were to happen, the steel beams themselves would have been bent out of shape and mangled, rather than fracturing? If the bottom beams collided with part of the top which was not steel, wouldn't it have impaled the weaker material?

voodoo

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

-Jimi Hendrix

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

- George Bernard Shaw

Courage is like love; it must have hope to nourish it.
- Napoleon Bonaparte

And finally, here's one for those who might see 911 as 'a good thing'. You know there are those that do. Some are even inviting another. "we need another 911".


So let us regard this as settled: what is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage. The mere act of believing that some wrongful course of action constitutes an advantage is pernicious.
- Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

Circus

Who to believe? "Jonsey" on the internet? Or hundreds and hundreds of experts in relevent fields who studied the first hand primary tangible evidence for three straight years?
I love typing that sentence out. It's my favorite sentence.
"Hundreds and hundreds of experts in relevent fields who studied the first hand primary tangible evidence for three straight years."

sunflower

And this was their conclusion after three years and hundreds and hundreds of relevant experts:



"The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable."

NIST, 2005

dadakarma

Before or after BushCo's no-bid contracted demo crews 'cleaned up the crime scene'?

WC Roentgen

And patted themselves in public for doing it in record time, when covering one's ass, speed is important.

sunflower

How much evidence from the actual crime scene did NIST have to analyze? 0.3%.

sunflower

And NIST's final conclusions were not based upon real testing samples; the steel they tested in their lab withstood higher temperatures than the steel in the towers were exposed to for a much shorter time.

Their final conclusions were arrived through a computer simulation/manipulation of so-called evidence. That's how.

Duvidoo

And sent the steel to the Orient for recycling. Giuliani's successor said that the steel wasn't needed ... anyone could look at a computer model of the towers. Uh huh.

WC Roentgen

I grew up in NY, trust me some average yahoo has a chunk of that tower in his basement, maybe two. There are also monuments in the state supposedly made from fragments.