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Old 03-02-2008, 08:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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How is it anti-American to question the official story of 9/11? There are a heckuva lot of Americans who question it, are THEY anti-Americans? She makes a good point about the rapidity with which the WTC towers came down (and it sounds like she hasn't even heard about the third tower yet).

It's NOT unamerican to question the official story. They just want you to THINK it is. They PRETEND it is, and idiots pretend right along with them.

Rather like the old story about The Emperor's New Clothes.

In fact, it's very damn american to question authority. In Missouri they want to be SHOWN the evidence for any claim.

Now that such a standard is being applied by ordinary people in the matter of the events of 11 September, the entire bullshit story is coming unravelled. Not that it will change very much....
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It's NOT unamerican to question the official story. They just want you to THINK it is. They PRETEND it is, and idiots pretend right along with them.

Rather like the old story about The Emperor's New Clothes.

In fact, it's very damn american to question authority. In Missouri they want to be SHOWN the evidence for any claim.

Now that such a standard is being applied by ordinary people in the matter of the events of 11 September, the entire bullshit story is coming unravelled. Not that it will change very much....

"The entire bullshit story is coming unravelled"....

care to post a source for that claim p-tech?
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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'9/11 attacks made up, ' says French best actress Oscar-winner
By PETER ALLEN - Last updated at 22:24pm on 1st March 2008



Actress Marion Cotillard sparked a political row yesterday after accusing America of fabricating the 9/11 attacks.

The 32-year-old French actress, who received an Oscar last month for her performance as singer Edith Piaf in La Vie En Rose, openly questioned the truth behind the terrorist atrocity in an interview broadcast on a French website.

"I think we're lied to about a number of things," Cotillard said, singling out the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center as an example of the US making up horror stories for political ends.

Referring to the two passenger jets being flown into the Twin Towers, Cotillard said:

"We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes. Are they burned? They [sic] was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burnt for 24 hours. It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there [in New York], in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed."

She added that the towers, planned in the early Sixties, were an outdated "money-sucker" that would have cost more to modernise than to rebuild altogether, which is why they were destroyed.

She said: "It was a money-sucker because they were finished, it seems to me, by 1973, and to re-cable all that, to bring up-to-date all the technology and everything, it was a lot more expensive, that work, than destroying them."

Cotillard's stardom and increased earning power looked assured following her Oscar win.

But after her outburst, in which she also queried the 1969 Moon landings, a successful future in Hollywood appears to be in jeopardy.

She said: "Did a man really walk on the Moon? I saw plenty of documentaries on it, and I really wondered. And in any case I don't believe all they tell me, that's for sure."

Cotillard, who was born and brought up in Paris, made the comments on Paris Première - Paris Dernière, a programme broadcast a year ago.

At the time her remarks were largely ignored, but their appearance yesterday on the French magazine website Marianne2 comes at a time when Cotillard's profile is sky-high.

She is shortly due to fly to Chicago to star alongside Johnny Depp in Public Enemies, a gangster movie expected to be her first big money-spinner.

Cotillard's film career began in Luc Besson's 1998 film Taxi - a huge hit in France but less so around the world.

She is slowly becoming a household name in France, in a list most recently topped by her close friend Audrey Tautou and previously by women such as Catherine Deneuve and Brigitte Bardot.

But Cotillard, who lives with actor and director Guillaume Canet, frequently tells interviewers she has no interest in money or prestige.

Denying that she had any kind of "Anglo-Saxon ambition", she said she prefers to "choose roles which suit me".

Despite her low-key image, Cotillard is an environmental activist who once worked as a spokesman for Greenpeace.

News of her anti-Americanism comes as Franco-American relations appear to be thawing, following Paris's refusal to show support for the invasion of Iraq.

President Nicolas Sarkozy insists he is pro-American, even supporting so-called "Anglo-Saxon" economic reforms.
She has an Oscar, so I guess she's right. So is Maggie Gyllenhall and Charlie Sheen.

My advice to the lovely actress is to take her shiny little statue and go away.
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Seems like he deserves it when I take that route home......
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"The entire bullshit story is coming unravelled"....

care to post a source for that claim p-tech?
If you took your blinders off for a while you might notice that even the two men in charge of the 9/11 Commission are saying their hands were tied and they weren't allowed to do a proper investigation. Just go on believing that your emperor is superbly dressed in sartorial elegance and that every word that oozes out of his pores rhymes with the Truth.

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If you took your blinders off for a while you might notice that even the two men in charge of the 9/11 Commission are saying their hands were tied and they weren't allowed to do a proper investigation. Just go on believing that your emperor is superbly dressed in sartorial elegance and that every word that oozes out of his pores rhymes with the Truth.


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I am usually a nice easy going person........ Although ever time I drive by that bar my Xwife cheated on me @ I get a bit troubled.........

But I am sure that is not the reason I kick that damn dog after........

Seems like he deserves it when I take that route home......
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An October 2006 New York Times/CBS poll found that a paltry 16% of Americans thought the government was telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks, meaning 84% doubted the accuracy of the official story.

A May 2006 Zogby poll found that over 70 million Americans supported a new investigation into 9/11 and less than half of the American public trusted the official 9/11 story or believed the attacks were adequately investigated. The figure supporting a new investigation rose to 51% of Americans in a September 2007 poll.

In addition, the same poll found that 67% also faulted the 9/11 Commission for not investigating anomalous collapse of World Trade Center 7.

As far back as August 2004, another Zogby poll established the fact that half of New Yorkers believe there was government complicity in 9/11.

Cotillard's 9/11 Comments Echo Widely-Respected Experts, Public Opinion
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It's NOT unamerican to question the official story. They just want you to THINK it is. They PRETEND it is, and idiots pretend right along with them.
Independent thought and searching for the truth is anti-American, citizen. Close-minded and "PC" (politically correct) thinking is pro-American. So the caring, sensitive, compassionate types that discuss 9/11 conspiracy theories are anti-American. Got it?

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Anhailla, if your head were not buried in the ground, you would already know that the official story came unravelled a little while back. And that is assuming that you have fundamental critical thinking skills.

You may not realize it sir, or madam, but because the government refused to investigate this, and because so many people are perceptive and curious, MANY individuals have been investigating the events of that day on their own. Which is to say in spite of government coverup.

It doesn't really matter whether YOU understand it--many other people do, and that number is growing daily.
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Anhailla, if your head were not buried in the ground, you would already know that the official story came unravelled a little while back. And that is assuming that you have fundamental critical thinking skills.

You may not realize it sir, or madam, but because the government refused to investigate this, and because so many people are perceptive and curious, MANY individuals have been investigating the events of that day on their own. Which is to say in spite of government coverup.

It doesn't really matter whether YOU understand it--many other people do, and that number is growing daily.
I have "blinders on" and my "head is buried"...

why wouldn't I take the blinders off before I buried my head?
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