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Old 03-06-2008, 09:15 PM   #81 (permalink)
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This seems to all support the official explanation.
Thanks for posting it.
“Seismic Proof – 9/11 Was An Inside Job (Updated Version II)”
Link: http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Seismic_Proof___9.11...
By Craig T. Furlong & Gordon Ross, Scholars for 9/11 Truth: Scholars For 9/11 Truth

The official times for plane "impact" as declared by the US Government, from both the 9/11 Commission and from NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), are different and yet both are true and accurate times. What can this factual contradiction mean? Looking exclusively at WTC1, there is found the indisputable causal link:
One World Trade, September 11, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11 “impact” time:
8:46:30 UTC, per LDEO seismic data (National Institute of Standards and Technology, 2005)
8:46:40 UTC, per FAA last primary radar contact (9/11 Commission Final Report, 2004)

Q- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event that occurred 10 seconds before the actual aircrash at 8:46:40?
A- The only possibility is huge explosions, as corroborated by many eyewitnesses at the time.
Q- Who caused these explosions before the plane hit?

Notes:
In 2004, the 9/11 Commission avoided addressing the earlier seismic event time (which had been, in error, attributed by Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, originally in 2001 as “plane impact”).
In 2005, NIST avoided addressing the 9/11 Commission’s later time for the aircraft’s actual impact time.
Both the 9/11 Commission and NIST avoided addressing the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the basements before the plane crashed.
Ginny Carr audiotape has an ~9.2 second-gap between the initial explosions and the aircrash.

Summary:
This precision data has yet to be refuted by anyone. It is from the two highest governmental entities charged with looking into what happened on 9/11, and both declared these times as accurate, and in doing so they corroborate William Rodriguez and the many eyewitnesses the morning of 9/11 who testified of explosions in the sub-basements of WTC1 before American Airlines Flight 11 struck the building. This is indicting evidence of governmental coverup and complicity.


Before it is too late, demand a new 9/11 investigation, except this time a real one.
Justice waits...{and there is no statute of time limitation on murder}
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:18 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Purdue measured the damage caused by the "missiles" wings. It matched precisely with the wingspan of a boeing 757.

Sorry if that interferes with what you want to believe.
Given that the outer wall of the Pentagon had not yet collapsed and the only hole is approximately 16 ft. in diameter, how does a plane over 44 feet tall and 125 ft. wide fit into that hole as shown in the photographic evidence from the Pentagon? Furthermore, can physics explain why there is no damage to the Pentagon's upper floors where the tail section would have hit? Close-ups of this section are extremely revealing.

Why were America and the world never shown the video and photographs of the Pentagon, BEFORE the outer wall had collapsed showing only one 16 ft. hole. Many people do not realize that the outer wall did not collapse until almost 30 minutes after the initial impact.
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The official times for plane "impact" as declared by the US Government, from both the 9/11 Commission and from NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), are different and yet both are true and accurate times. What can this factual contradiction mean? Looking exclusively at WTC1, there is found the indisputable causal link:
One World Trade, September 11, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11 “impact” time:
8:46:30 UTC, per LDEO seismic data (National Institute of Standards and Technology, 2005)
8:46:40 UTC, per FAA last primary radar contact (9/11 Commission Final Report, 2004)
The 9/11 commission estimated that flight 11 hit wtc1 at 8:46:40, based on norad's report.
The Seismic readings from Colombia University showed the impact at 8:46:29.

That's the only problem here. A 10 second disparancy for when the plane hit.

Apparantly Columbia university's clock is 11 seconds ahead of the clock that Norad used.
OH THE HORROR
I guess to "openminded people", this somehow proves that explosives were used.
What a ridiculous and pathetic grasp at straws.

Do you realize, Duvidoo, that the entire seismic team at Columbia University are unanimous in stating that there is zero seismic evidence of secondary explosives? Did you know that?
But if that consipracy lying site says differently, then maybe you should just ignore those experts. Oh, if only I could be as "openminded" as you.
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Given that the outer wall of the Pentagon had not yet collapsed and the only hole is approximately 16 ft. in diameter, how does a plane over 44 feet tall and 125 ft. wide fit into that hole as shown in the photographic evidence from the Pentagon? Furthermore, can physics explain why there is no damage to the Pentagon's upper floors where the tail section would have hit? Close-ups of this section are extremely revealing.

Why were America and the world never shown the video and photographs of the Pentagon, BEFORE the outer wall had collapsed showing only one 16 ft. hole. Many people do not realize that the outer wall did not collapse until almost 30 minutes after the initial impact.
Everybody knows that the outwall collapsed after 30 minutes. And everybody's seen the numerous pictures of the hole that spans 96 feet prior to collapse. The planes engines and nose created the hole. The wings obviously did not contribute to the hole. They just caused damage. When the damage was measured, it matched the wingspan of a boeing 757.

Now, the engines are obviously lower to the gound than the nose of the plane. This means that the hole was in this shape. (The red outline below)



Conspiracy lying sites liked to edit out the lower portion of the hole caused by the engines, and show only the small square shaped hole caused by the nose. (which measures at 18 feet... and just take a guess at what the width of a boeing 757's nose is?)

When I saw this conspiracy lying trick, I immediately just laughed. But I guess "some" people fall for these types of things.

Also, you're saying a missile caused damage spanning this width?
This picture was taken just moments after impact, prior to collapse.
Yeah, a missile caused damage spanning that distance all right.
So utterly absurd.

(This picture isn't too clear at this size. Look at this link and see just how far these fires span.)
http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pen...fire-width.jpg
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How much of this topic is American anti-France childishness? I'm about to tell you the truth...

I was born on Bastille day; i'm from New Orleans; and I just finished eating croissants.
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How much of this topic is American anti-France childishness? I'm about to tell you the truth...

I was born on Bastille day; i'm from New Orleans; and I just finished eating croissants.
Oui on both counts. They're still having a hissy fit because the French wisely stayed out of the Coalition of the Willful. I made my morning cuppa with a French press!
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