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Old 03-12-2008, 10:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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When my neighbors' house burned down, the firemen created a safety zone around the house. Sounds kinda like a smart idea. Why would it be different in the case of a cluster of building that are on fire with two Jetliner-sized gaping holes in the side? The first thing I said when the newscameras got there was "Why are all those people doing so close to that building, I'd be afraid it'd fall". I would call it precautionary common-sense.
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:50 AM   #32 (permalink)
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A building that was failing codes and was to be torn down, was hit by falling multi-ton dibris (hardly 'anything') as well as the bigger killer of structures, vibration.
"Dibris" and vibration that strangely had comparatively neglible effect on two much closer WTC structures ... that weren't owned by Silverstein.
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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When my neighbors' house burned down, the firemen created a safety zone around the house. Sounds kinda like a smart idea.

What was that you said about apples and orangutans?
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:37 AM   #34 (permalink)
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When my neighbors' house burned down, the firemen created a safety zone around the house. Sounds kinda like a smart idea.

Indeed ... a very prudent measure. But let's say the only two houses in recorded history that had collapsed due to a plane crashing into them and the resultant fire (c.f. The World According to Garp by John Irving), wouldn't you find it odd that the firefighters knew for certain that the third house ... the one not hit by a plane ... was destined to collapse in similar fashion? Especially if there were a house or two between the first two and the third..... (that wasn't effected at all)....
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Mercy, you sound like a salesman for Boeing!
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Indeed ... a very prudent measure. But let's say the only two houses in recorded history that had collapsed due to a plane crashing into them and the resultant fire (c.f. The World According to Garp by John Irving), wouldn't you find it odd that the firefighters knew for certain that the third house ... the one not hit by a plane ... was destined to collapse in similar fashion? Especially if there were a house or two between the first two and the third..... (that wasn't effected at all)....
Listen, as PTech can verify after many months of this, I am an open minded person. But you have to convince me. So don't take it personal, but I absolutely don't agree with you. I have looked at the various evidences, with a harsh eye towards who and where it's being presented by.
Your case hasn't faired well with me.

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There has never been a case of a fully fueled Jetliner being driven at speed into a top ten world's highest building.

The dynamics of the collateral damage are just that - dynamic.

The firefighters on site, as I mentioned in my example of a house fire, seem to have a pretty good 'better safe than sorry' mentality when it comes to civilians. That this is proven at a house fire is precedence for what happens when a skyskraper has been popped by a plane. These people then sent their own into the buildings.
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:47 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Mercy, you sound like a salesman for Boeing!
You know, I'm really glad you joined. I haven't been back 'there' since.

We have a really nice line of used Super Duper Building Safe (Crumple Zone Tested) JetLiner RSs on a good plan.
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What was that you said about apples and orangutans?
An orangutan goes into a bar eating an apple. The Bartender yells at him saying "Hey, You get outta my bar!!!"
The orangutan says "Why? You discriminate against orangutans?"
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"Dibris" and vibration that strangely had comparatively neglible effect on two much closer WTC structures ... that weren't owned by Silverstein.
What specific buildings are you talking about?

One building (not owned by Silverstein) was completely buried in the collapses. Two other buildings (wtc 5 and 6) were so heavily damaged that they were torn down. They also weren't owned by Silverstein.
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What specific buildings are you talking about?

One building (not owned by Silverstein) was completely buried in the collapses. Two other buildings (wtc 5 and 6) were so heavily damaged that they were torn down. They also weren't owned by Silverstein.
But they didn't fall down like packs of cards ... my point was that they didn't collapse like #7 but must have been exposed to at least as much debris and vibration. (5 & 6 were the ones I was referring to.)
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