Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

Apparently you didnt get the "free fall speed" reference.

Originally Posted by Duvidoo

Sure I did ... but Zwicker's 26 points got even less of a rise out of you.

Originally Posted by Duvidoo

Sure I did ... but Zwicker's 26 points got even less of a rise out of you.

Originally Posted by sunflower

Oh please don't bring up points with wilbanks - he likes to use that to resurrect bwhitt. It won't be pretty.

Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

It's over the line to point out how you guys have a history of swalowing any bullshit that the truther leaders throw at you. Seems like the fatter and stinkier it is, the more you guys like it.

Originally Posted by sunflower

So the wargames was (were) made up, huh?

And Able Danger?


Is that what you're saying, wilbanks?

Originally Posted by Duvidoo

From an extensive review of Barrie Zwicker's Towers of Deception (about the media cover up of the events on 9/11):

Summary of Exhibits A-Z
“If a significant portion of the evidence summarized here holds up, the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 succeeded because of official complicity would become virtually inescapable.” – David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor

A. WTC 7 Collapsed at Near Free-Fall Speed at 5:20 p.m. 9/11Bullshit

B. Standard Operating Procedures Were Not Followed by NORAD on 9/11so?

C. Otis Fighter Jets Were Put into a Delaying Holding Pattern over the AtlanticProve it.

D.Langley Fighter Jets Were Ordered Out Over the Atlantic prove it

E. Fighters at Andrews AFB Did Not Protect Nation’s Capital or Pentagon Fighters are not always ready for scramble, because

F. NORAD Has Been Well-Prepared for Major Emergencies Since 1961 from OUTSIDE threats

G. War Games on 9/11 Helped Paralyze the US Air Force strawman argument

H. WTC Collapses Reveal 11 Features of Controlled Demolitions BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT

I. WTC Twin Towers Were Designed To Withstand Impact of a Boeing 707 and? people make mistakes

J. Proof Steel-Framed High Rise Towers Don’t Collapse Due to Fires What the hell does that mean?

K. Oral Evidence From Firefighters: the WTC Towers Were “Demolished” BULLSHIT

L. Federal Government Broke the Law by Rapid Removal of Steel Debris What law?

M. Bush Remaining in Florida Classroom Inconsistent With All Protocols He's an idiot.

N. Lies in the Pentagon’s Alleged Ignorance About Flight 77 Does this guy even know what a complete sentence is?

O. Anomalies in the Official Story of What Struck the Pentagon What anomaly? Show WHY it is an anomaly, and not just because you dont believe it.

P. Flight 93 Was Shot Down: Debris Covers 5 Square Miles Says who????

Q. Cell Phones Don’t Work Above 8,000 feet or Over Areas Without Cell Relay Transmitters NOT TRUE!!!

R. 9/11 Commission Delays and Obstructions = Bush Administration Cover-Up govt in action

S. Executive Director of 9/11 Commission Closely Tied to the Bush White House Aren't they all connected?

T. The 9/11 Commission Report: “A 571 Page Lie” – Evidence of a Cover-Up COMPLETE SENTENCES PLEASE

U. CIA Creates, Trains and Runs Terrorists Around the World Including 9/11 Patsies ?????????

V. FBI Involved in Protecting Persons Connected to Terrorism and 9/11NOT SURPRISING,

W. CIA-Linked Pakistan ISI Financed “Lead Hijacker” Mohammed AttaPROVE IT.

X. 9/11 “Put” Options Prior to 9/11 Showed Advance Knowledge by InsidersSO????

Y. Osama bin Laden Has Long and Close Ties to CIAAND???

Z. Leading Neo-Con Organization called for “A New Pearl Harbor” It didnt CALL for a new pearl harbor

Some skeptics will rejoice at the choices that Zwicker has made, others will shake their heads in disapproval. Some “debunkers” will scan this list with glee as they seek one error from which they can erect a stance to pronounce that Zwicker’s entire thesis may be discarded forthwith.
Go ahead. This isn’t a game. Zwicker is not joking, and the chapter on evidence is not the book. If you seek a true-life detective story about 9/11, written by a former cop, go get Mike Ruppert’s Crossing the Rubicon. If you are looking for a forensic examination of Covert Operations and the controllers that pull the operator’s strings, go get Webster G. Tarpley’s Synthetic Terror. If you are insistent about examining the relationships between Western Intel and al Qaeda, you can’t top Nafeez Ahmed’s books, The War on Truth and The War on Freedom ( the latter not to be confused with Jim Marrs’ excellent but rare, War on Freedom ).

Zwicker fleshes each exhibit out with varying amounts of detail, but exhibits B-G make it clear where his heart is; the “failure” of NORAD on 9/11.

Originally Posted by brian_wilbanks

Look....I'm a military brat and also joined the USAF when I graduated HS and I can tell you that the military is ALWAYS conducting war games somewhere.

Originally Posted by sunflower

Fine and dandy. However, claiming that you couldn't have envisioned a scenario like 9/11, you know? Planes, hijackers, buildings - and specifically, the WTC - as Bush and Rice and others claimed, turned out not to be true, didn't it?

Of course, that's no call for suspicion, is it?