9/11 Concrete Evidence of an Inside Job - Page 54

sunflower · 11-12-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Teri B.

That's so funny. I never even thought of it as dying, till you brought it up.

Thanks, Teri! It's really cute (and the blooming reference makes me feel young!!

White Rabbit · 11-12-2007, 03:40 AM

I saw them as blooming and then going to sleep.

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Originally Posted by sunflower

I saw it...is it dying???!!!

I can't tell what it's doing!

sunflower · 11-13-2007, 08:46 AM

sunflower · 11-13-2007, 08:49 AM

Testimony excluded from the 9/11 Commission's final report include:

Norman Mineta

William Rodriguez

The Commission decided not to even hear the testimony of the firefighters - guess it wasn't that important:

Fire Fighters excluded from 9/11 testimony

May 23, 2004

NEW YORK — The independent commission probing the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington decided not to hear from the worker group that lost more lives than anyone else to the terrorists: The Fire Fighters.

Speaking as the 9/11 panel heard New York officials discuss communications, wrong instructions and other problems that beset rescue workers that fatal day, IAFF President Harold Schaitberger called the city's response "lip service" or worse.

Of the 3,000 people killed by the terrorist attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon, 343 were New York Fire Fighters, all members of Schaitberger's union.

"Since no Fire Fighters were asked to speak, all the people of New York will hear is the opinion of politicians and people who work for politicians" and who are offering an inadequate, at best, future communications system, he added.

While Fire Fighters "will show up and fight" the next attack, they'll be ill-equipped to do so--due to Bush budget cuts--and unable to effectively communicate, costing lives, he added. Schaitberger called that "a formula for disaster."

This article was written by Press Associates, Inc., news service. Used by permission.

sunflower · 11-13-2007, 10:34 AM

FEMA investigators were barred from GZ. They were allowed 150 selected pieces of steel from which to investigate and draw up their report.

All evidence was under especially tight security at GZ. Trucks carrying debris bound for Fresh Kills were tracked by GPS. A driver who took an extended lunch break was fired.

Security at Fresh Kills was even tighter. And, as an added bonus, there were members of the bomb squad team on hand.

anhailla · 11-13-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sunflower

FEMA investigators were barred from GZ. They were allowed 150 selected pieces of steel from which to investigate and draw up their report.

All evidence was under especially tight security at GZ. Trucks carrying debris bound for Fresh Kills were tracked by GPS. A driver who took an extended lunch break was fired.

Security at Fresh Kills was even tighter. And, as an added bonus, there were members of the bomb squad team on hand.

source please.....

brian_wilbanks · 11-13-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by anhailla

source please.....

The source?

Alex Jones underwear.

sunflower · 11-13-2007, 01:03 PM

NY Times 3/7/2002

BUILDING STANDARDS

Mismanagement Muddled Collapse Inquiry, House Panel Says

By ERIC LIPTON

The Giuliani administration started to send World Trade Center steel off to recycling yards before investigators could examine it to determine whether it might hold crucial clues as to why the buildings fell. The full investigative team set up by FEMA was not allowed to enter ground zero to collect other potentially critical evidence in the weeks after the attack, and it did not get a copy of the World Trade Center blueprints until early January, a delay House members found infuriating.
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Sw. Atmo Kabir: a Sannyas in New York after the Terror
DIARY OF A LOGISTICS DRIVER FOR THE AMERICAN RED CROSS IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

"We approached another area almost the size of a football field surrounded by tall poles ending in powerful halogen light clusters. A large backhoe digger with a shovel full of debris raised high was inching back in reverse and scattering the stuff in small mounds for the workers to more easily pick through. Off to the side, were sifting machines that shake the rubble through a strainer before it's strewn out on the ground before the men. I counted eight workers carefully eyeing the sifted debris for any evidence as the conveyor belt carried it towards a bin. The evidence could be in the form of say, pieces of the Black Box or of the aircraft, or valuables destroyed from the collapsed buildings. Dressed in white Tyvec suits, yellow boots and gas masks, groups of four or five of these guys sift through the debris with pitchforks and rakes. And each group employs German shepherd dog that works the debris just as hard as the men do. One guy holds a white plastic bucket and goes about looking for small objects; another is dangling an article of clothing off the end of his pitchfork. Anything of importance is quickly inspected and handed over to the specialists, either the bomb squads, Secret Service, CIA, police or whatever agency that needs to be informed. Off to the side two folding tables covered in muddied plastic are there for placing evidence that needs to be recorded. A large hand-painted cardboard seen behind the tables reads: "No body parts on the table".

http://www.frankames.com/details.asp?id=6

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sunflower Latin Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Fla. Posts: 2,594 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Testimony excluded from the 9/11 Commission's final report include: Norman Mineta William Rodriguez The Commission decided not to even hear the testimony of the firefighters - guess it wasn't that important: Fire Fighters excluded from 9/11 testimony May 23, 2004 NEW YORK — The independent commission probing the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington decided not to hear from the worker group that lost more lives than anyone else to the terrorists: The Fire Fighters. Speaking as the 9/11 panel heard New York officials discuss communications, wrong instructions and other problems that beset rescue workers that fatal day, IAFF President Harold Schaitberger called the city's response "lip service" or worse. Of the 3,000 people killed by the terrorist attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon, 343 were New York Fire Fighters, all members of Schaitberger's union. "Since no Fire Fighters were asked to speak, all the people of New York will hear is the opinion of politicians and people who work for politicians" and who are offering an inadequate, at best, future communications system, he added. While Fire Fighters "will show up and fight" the next attack, they'll be ill-equipped to do so--due to Bush budget cuts--and unable to effectively communicate, costing lives, he added. Schaitberger called that "a formula for disaster." This article was written by Press Associates, Inc., news service. Used by permission. __________________ “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act”. *George Orwell* ************************************ The owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream....'cos you have to be asleep to believe it. George Carlin http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...m8fo8ne6xy.gif
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sunflower Latin Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Fla. Posts: 2,594 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	FEMA investigators were barred from GZ. They were allowed 150 selected pieces of steel from which to investigate and draw up their report. All evidence was under especially tight security at GZ. Trucks carrying debris bound for Fresh Kills were tracked by GPS. A driver who took an extended lunch break was fired. Security at Fresh Kills was even tighter. And, as an added bonus, there were members of the bomb squad team on hand. __________________ “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act”. *George Orwell* ************************************ The owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream....'cos you have to be asleep to believe it. George Carlin http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...m8fo8ne6xy.gif
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sunflower Latin Lover Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Fla. Posts: 2,594 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	NY Times 3/7/2002 BUILDING STANDARDS Mismanagement Muddled Collapse Inquiry, House Panel Says By ERIC LIPTON The Giuliani administration started to send World Trade Center steel off to recycling yards before investigators could examine it to determine whether it might hold crucial clues as to why the buildings fell. The full investigative team set up by FEMA was not allowed to enter ground zero to collect other potentially critical evidence in the weeks after the attack, and it did not get a copy of the World Trade Center blueprints until early January, a delay House members found infuriating. ///// Sw. Atmo Kabir: a Sannyas in New York after the Terror DIARY OF A LOGISTICS DRIVER FOR THE AMERICAN RED CROSS IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER "We approached another area almost the size of a football field surrounded by tall poles ending in powerful halogen light clusters. A large backhoe digger with a shovel full of debris raised high was inching back in reverse and scattering the stuff in small mounds for the workers to more easily pick through. Off to the side, were sifting machines that shake the rubble through a strainer before it's strewn out on the ground before the men. I counted eight workers carefully eyeing the sifted debris for any evidence as the conveyor belt carried it towards a bin. The evidence could be in the form of say, pieces of the Black Box or of the aircraft, or valuables destroyed from the collapsed buildings. Dressed in white Tyvec suits, yellow boots and gas masks, groups of four or five of these guys sift through the debris with pitchforks and rakes. And each group employs German shepherd dog that works the debris just as hard as the men do. One guy holds a white plastic bucket and goes about looking for small objects; another is dangling an article of clothing off the end of his pitchfork. Anything of importance is quickly inspected and handed over to the specialists, either the bomb squads, Secret Service, CIA, police or whatever agency that needs to be informed. Off to the side two folding tables covered in muddied plastic are there for placing evidence that needs to be recorded. A large hand-painted cardboard seen behind the tables reads: "No body parts on the table". http://www.frankames.com/details.asp?id=6 __________________ “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act”. *George Orwell* ************************************ The owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream....'cos you have to be asleep to believe it. George Carlin http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...m8fo8ne6xy.gif
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