Ptech

I totally agree that TWA 800 is on nobody's radar. Good grief, the WTC attacks are not on anybody's radar. They are both dead and buried by the bureaucracy.

I just happened to catch the head of the FAA making this announcement at some press briefing on last night's TV news. Now if it is just a routine little Airworthiness Directive, which is what it is technically, why have a press conference to announce it? ADs are released almost weekly, and they never, that I'm aware of, have a press conference to do so. And having seen a few propaganda ploys in my lifetime, her statement was worded perfectly, and was a propaganda ploy.

Yes, TBM is a small French airplane. The 750 is not grounded, but the 850 with the bigger engine is.

Titanium Cat

Then why would the FAA bother with political posturing at this point as you suggested? One postures when there are people actually paying attention.

LOL, you think everything is propaganda and a ploy! You think a bunch of rural folk from Pennsylvannia would gladly jump on the federal government mass murder conspiracy train. Did it ever occur to you that agencies also like to cover their butts just in case another accident occurs even if it isn't very likely?

But no link to the story...

Ptech

You asked the $64,000 question TC. Why would it posture? Why call a press conference to release an AD? That is really my point here.

I can only speculate as to the true answer to that question.

However, being the cynical bastard that I am, and knowing what I do about the event, my speculation is that there was a subliminal message, that being to reinforce the official story.

Hey, you know the story on the link thing. I hope.

Titanium Cat

Yes, you are scared of making a working link because what you link to will probably provide evidence against your own claim.

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Have you looked at all the press conferences that FAA officials have?

Acting Administrator, Robert A. Sturgell (09/14/2007 – Present)

• Inerting Press Conference, “Fuel Tank Flammability” (07/16/2008)
• Airports Awards Ceremony, “Holders of the Public Trust” (07/15/2008)
• Denver International LOI Announcement, “A Little Elbow Room Goes A Long Way” (07/11/2008)
• AAAE Transatlantic Aviation Issues, “Reinforcing the Transatlantic Bridge” (06/30/2008)
• Fatigue Safety Forum, “No Rumble Strips” (06/17/2008)
• Chicago Press Conference, “O’Hare Caps Lifted” (06/16/2008)
• Collier Trophy, “And They Said it Couldn’t Be Done” (06/12/2008)
• ATCA Technical Symposium, “Crisis in Confidence” (06/11/2008)
• New Jersey Aviation Hall of Fame, “Aviation Blossoms in the Garden State” (05/23/2008)
• Flight Safety Foundation, “You Need to Weigh In” (05/14/2008)
• ATO Safety Management Conference, “SMS” (05/13/2008)
• USO Lounge Dedication Ceremony, “A Haven” (05/08/2008)
• Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing & Urban Development, “Oral Testimony as Prepared for Delivery” (04/17/2008)
• Professional Women Controllers, “Perspective” (04/14/2008)
• Boston Logan Runway Status Lights Briefing, “Boston…Red…Stop” (04/09/2008)
• Press Briefing, “Safety Audit Update” (04/02/2008)
• Machinists Union/Aviation HS Seminar, “The Journey of a Lifetime
• Starts Right Now” (03/31/2008)
• Runway Safety Update, “Moving the Chains Forward” (03/25/2008)
• International Aviation Club, “Green Aspirations” (03/11/2008)
• Forecast Conference, “Growth Ahead, But There’s a But” (03/10/2008)
• House Appropriations Committee, “Oral Testimony as Prepared for Delivery” (03/06/2008)
• LAX Runway Status Lights Press Event, “Red Means Stop” (02/26/2008)
• Helicopter Association International, “ADS-B is the Answer” (02/25/2008)
• Aviation Leadership Summit, “ASPIRE to Green” (02/18/2008)
• Senate Confirmation Hearing, “Oral Testimony as Prepared for Delivery” (02/07/2008)
• 11th Annual Commercial Space Transportation Conference, “Maybe Someday? Why Not Today?” (02/05/2008)
• International Safety Forum, “An International Call to Action” (11/29/2007)
• New York Scheduling Meeting, “We've Got to Get Things Right at JFK” (10/23/2007)
• Call to Action Update, “Press Statement” (10/22/2007)
• White House Event, “Congestion Press Conference Remarks” (09/27/2007)
• New York Congestion Meeting, “Opening Remarks” (09/27/2007)
• Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, “Oral Testimony as Prepared for Delivery” (09/27/2007)
• House Telecommunications and Infrastructure Committee, “Oral Testimony as Prepared for Delivery” (09/26/2007)
• Dulles Tower Dedication, “A Great Airport at a Great Time” (09/17/2007)

Deputy Administrator, Robert A. Sturgell (03/24/2007 – 09/13/2007)

• Airport Safety Forum, “Raise the Safety Bar” (08/14/2007)
• Spokane ATCT/TRACON Dedication Ceremony, “Show Us How It's Done, Spokane” (08/09/2007)
• Press Briefing, “Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)” (07/26/2007)
• RTCA Symposium, “The Pieces of NextGen are Falling into Place” (03/14/2007)
• Civil/Military Air Traffic Management Summit (CMAC 07), “Addressing Challenges” (02/27/2007)
• Black History Month, “Black History: A Celebration” (02/07/2007)
• Charlotte/Douglas International LOI , “Yes, Charlotte, There is a Santa Claus” (12/18/2006)
• American Association of Airport Executives Disadvantaged Business Enterprises Conference, “A Level Playing Field for All” (10/11/2006)
• Madison Municipal Grant Announcement, “Helping Madison Take Off” (09/18/2006)
• International Aviation Training Symposium, “Unsurpassed Training Starts Right Here” (07/18/2006)
• AAAE Contract Tower Workshop, “Keep Showin' Us the Way” (06/19/2006)
• IATA Fuel Efficiency Seminar, “U.S. and China: Collaboration Is Key” (04/11/2006)
• Working Together (05/24/2005)
• A Proud Tradition (03/31/2005)
• Black Boxes and Gray Matter (02/25/2005)
• Commitment to Collaboration (02/07/2005)
• NBAA Chairman's Luncheon (10/12/2004)
• Meet the FAA (04/16/2004)
• FAA Managers Association (10/29/2003)
• Houston Runway Dedication (10/24/2003)
• Denver International Airport 6th Runway Dedication (06/23/2003)

Now that is just the FAA administrator, other higher ups in the FAA have their own press conferences. Apparently it might be rather difficult to find something that Robert A. Sturgell won't have a press conference about.

But continue on with your cynical speculation...

Ptech

Bravo TC! You are a whiz with the Google Machine. But I already knew that.

And I also knew that, yes Virginia, the FAA has press conferences.

However on the list you just posted, it would be interesting to know how many of those events were to announce what is basically just an Airworthiness Directive? Maybe this is technically NOT an AD, but it sure sounds like one, and has the same effect as an AD, with a 2 year compliance time.

Going through the list quickly, it appears no other one addresses such a matter stemming from an accident 12 years old?

anhailla

I am going to regret this but what the hey...who exactly do you suggest brought down TWA? I can't remember or I didn't care at the time.
I want an actual answer please...not some "there are evil, powerful forces in the world" BS. Save the drama and tell me what you think.

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Titanium Cat

LOL, if you want to get that specific then you are pretty well guaranteed of being able to find something that is unique to just about everyone of those press releases.

The thing is, if you haven't got the idea yet, is that FAA administrators babble about bizillions of topics many of which aren't particularly noteworthy. You truly have to be delusional to think that anything more than a tiny fraction of the population would give more than a moment's notice to this stuff. The FAA has nothing to gain from what you claim is political posturing. They might as well be doing subliminal messaging to tree frogs.

Is there anything you don't see a conspiracy in and that isn't government propaganda covering something up?

Ptech

Does it really matter what a Florida resident thinks about WHO was responsible? Or a Denver resident? No.

I will repeat my thoughts ANH, just for you.

Two possibilities: 1) an innocent mistake by a US Navy vessel, similar to friendly fire, or 2) a sinister and intentional event to kill somebody on that airplane.

I have no particular opinion on which it is. I do know that when I just completely accidentally happened to catch Clinton's live TV press conference on the event, I could tell he was prevaricating. But I really have no opinion about whether it was 1 or 2 above.

Someday when we have time, we can discuss the downing of KAL 007. There was an interesting passenger onboard that airplane, and I just discovered it completely by accident within the last 6 months or so.

Later

anhailla

oh that's right, someone really had it in for those teenagers on a school trip to France.

you just couldn't help yourself with the "sinister" drama...could you?
I believe I remarked before that if someone wanted someone dead on the plane it would have been easier to shoot them in the airport parking lot. I don't suppose you EVER took the time to read the passenger list.

as far as the Navy Vessel goes...flights are extremely common out of that area, I surmise that the Navy has procedures that protect them from accidently shooting down a commercial carrier. Someone with some Naval experience could speak to that...

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Ptech

Well it's either sinister or innocent, and I said that in my first post.