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Old 06-15-2008, 12:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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& it just might live up to its title: I must've watched that clip 20 times now & I laugh every time
Indeed, I am having a bit of a giggle-fest myself.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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oh oh oh +

Is Bill Murray not the greatest or what?

(didn't see your first post there, must learn to slow down)

Remember Tootsie? I still laugh at his every line in that movie.

that movie was full of yumminess, the arguing between Sydney Pollack(the agent) and Dustin Hoffman(the actor/actress)...
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Remember Tootsie? I still laugh at his every line in that movie.

that movie was full of yumminess, the arguing between Sydney Pollack(the agent) and Dustin Hoffman(the actor/actress)...
He always makes me laugh, always

Plus he's a sexy beast
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Oh MY GOD!...hey MM... hit the panda video below the one you posted, the baby Panda sneezes and scares big Mama

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The Independance Day and Enemy of the State ones are my faves.
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These days the National Guard, probably through its Pentagon offices, are running ads at the local movie theaters, like I saw the lasst 2 weekends running.

And the last 30 seconds or so ends with something like "never forget the towers".

Blatant and shameless propaganda.
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Oh MY GOD!...hey MM... hit the panda video below the one you posted, the baby Panda sneezes and scares big Mama

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it looks like the mama pees a little
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Excellent observations! I would only like to add this little nugget of knowledge. These are very old ideas.

THE NEED FOR POLITICAL DICTATORSHIP

FROM REPUBLIC

"[473c] Unless," said I, "either philosophers become kings [473d] in our states or those whom we now call our kings and rulers take to the pursuit of philosophy seriously and adequately, and there is a conjunction of these two things, political power and philosophic intelligence, while the motley horde of the natures who at present pursue either apart from the other are compulsorily excluded, there can be no cessation of troubles for our states, nor, I fancy, for the human race either. Nor, until this happens, will this constitution which we have been expounding in theory [473e] ever be put into practice within the limits of possibility and see the light of the sun."

"[483b] I suppose the makers of the laws are the weaker sort of men, and the more numerous. So it is with a view to themselves and their own interest that they make their laws and distribute their praises and censures; [483c] and to terrorize the stronger sort of folk who are able to get an advantage, and to prevent them from getting one over them, they tell them, that such aggrandizement is foul and unjust, and that wrongdoing is just this endeavor to get the advantage of one's neighbors: for I expect they are well content to see themselves on an equality, when they are so inferior. So this is why by convention it is termed unjust and foul to aim at an advantage over the majority, [483d] and why they call it wrongdoing: but nature, in my opinion, herself proclaims the fact that it is right for the better to have advantage of the worse, and the abler of the feebler. It is obvious in many cases that this is so, not only in the animal world, but in the states and races, collectively, of men--that right has been decided to consist in the sway and advantage of the stronger over the weaker. For by what manner of right did Xerxes [483e] march against Greece, or his father against Scythia? Or take the countless other cases of the sort that one might mention. Why, surely these men follow nature--the nature of right--in acting thus; yes, on my soul, and follow the law of nature--though not that, I dare say, which is made by us; we mold the best and strongest amongst us, taking them from their infancy like young lions, and utterly enthrall them by our spells [484a] and witchcraft, telling them the while that they must have but their equal share, and that this is what is fair and just. But, I fancy, when some man arises with a nature of sufficient force, he shakes off all that we have taught him, bursts his bonds, and breaks free; he tramples underfoot our codes and juggleries, our charms and "laws," which are all against nature; our slave rises in revolt and shows himself our master, and there [484b] dawns the full light of natural justice."

FROM STATESMAN

"[293a] We must … look for the right kind of rule in one or two or very few men, whenever such right rule occurs. And these men, whether they rule over willing or unwilling subjects, with or without written laws, and whether they are rich or poor, must … exercise their rule in accordance with some art or science.

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