Payne Stewart and the wayward Lear jet - Page 3

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvidoo

You're basing that on something that was totally out of context. His book has 25 CHAPTERS ... not just paragraphs. As I recall he was comparing information from the time of the attacks against information furnished by the FBI for the Mossoquai trial ... they contradicted each other.

No I was basing it on what you quoted. The word cellphone was added which is not present in the 9/11 Commission Report.

There was no contradiction with the ZM trial transcript.

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

he lied? prove it!

I made several replies to that post of yours. I asked why you didn't reply to me. You said you were still working on it. That was about two weeks ago.

eagleclaw · 06-26-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

No I was basing it on what you quoted. The word cellphone was added which is not present in the 9/11 Commission Report.

There was no contradiction with the ZM trial transcript.

Chill Tc to a little Bowie:

YouTube - David Bowie - Diamond Dogs

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

Chill Tc to a little Bowie:

Typical twoofer, can't back anything up.

Duvidoo · 06-26-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

No I was basing it on what you quoted. The word cellphone was added which is not present in the 9/11 Commission Report.

There was no contradiction with the ZM trial transcript.

I don't think I was the one who quoted from Griffin. Within the chapter he writes: "Although, as we have seen, at least eleven of the reported calls from United 93 were widely thought to be cell phone calls, the FBI said [during the course of the Moussaoui trial] that only two of them actually were. ..... Which two?"

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In 9/11 Contradictions, David Ray Griffin shows that the official story about 9/11 is riddled with internal contradictions. For example, the 9/11 Commission's claim that Vice President Cheney did not enter the Presidential Emergency Operations Center until almost 10 AM was contradicted by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, who testified that when he arrived at 9:20, Cheney was already there; the White House's early claim that President Bush left the Florida classroom immediately after being informed by Andy Card about the second attack on the World Trade Center was later contradicted by a video of the session, which showed that the president remained for about 10 minutes; Rudy Giuliani's recent claim that he did not know the Twin Towers were going to collapse contradicts a statement he made to ABC's Peter Jennings on 9/11; Ted Olson's claim that he received two phone calls from his wife, Barbara Olson, who was on Flight 77 has been contradicted by the FBI report on phone calls from the airliners; the claim that several passengers on United Flight 93, such as Tom Burnett, used their cell phones to report its hijacking has been contradicted by that same FBI report; the claim that there is no doubt about Osama bin Ladin's responsibility for the 9/11 attacks has also been contradicted by the FBI, which says it has no hard evidence of his responsibility; the claim that information connecting the attacks to al-Qaeda was found in Mohamed Atta's luggage contradicts the story told by the FBI immediately after the attacks; and the claim that the Pentagon had no way of knowing that an attack was coming has been contradicted by proof that an E-4B was flying over Washington at the time.

Two contradictory statements cannot both be true. These contradictions show, therefore, that individuals and agencies articulating the official story of 9/11 have made many false statements. Congress and the press clearly should ask which of the contradictory statements are false and why they were made.

This book is purely factual, simply laying out the fact that these internal contradictions exist. As such, the book contains no theory. Politicians and journalists who deal with the issues raised herein, therefore, will not be giving credence to some "conspiracy theory" about 9/11. They will simply be carrying out their duty to ask why the official story about 9/11, arguably the most fateful event of our time, is riddled with so many contradictions.

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvidoo

I don't think I was the one who quoted from Griffin.

I don't know who you quoted from, you didn't provide the source. But whoever it was was wrong.

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Within the chapter he writes: "Although, as we have seen, at least eleven of the reported calls from United 93 were widely thought to be cell phone calls, the FBI said [during the course of the Moussaoui trial] that only two of them actually were. ..... Which two?"

Who is making that claim that at least 11 of the calls were cell phones?

CeeCee Lyles used her cell phone. Can't remember the other person.

eagleclaw · 06-26-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

I don't know who you quoted from, you didn't provide the source. But whoever it was was wrong.

Who is making that claim that at least 11 of the calls were cell phones?

CeeCee Lyles used her cell phone. Can't remember the other person.

Who is the other person?

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

Who is the other person?

I just said I couldn't remember.

Duvidoo has the ZM trial Flashpoint application, it indicates which calls were from cell phones.

eagleclaw · 06-26-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

I just said I couldn't remember.

Duvidoo has the ZM trial Flashpoint application, it indicates which calls were from cell phones.

I asked you , not D. If you owed me money would you expect me to see to see anjhilla to collect?

Titanium Cat · 06-26-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eagleclaw

I asked you , not D. If you owed me money would you expect me to see to see anjhilla to collect?

I'd never owe a dirt bag like you money though.

So who was claiming that cell phone calls were made at 30,000 feet?

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