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Old 07-14-2008, 03:52 PM   #521 (permalink)
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Yeah but bdd1, other than those pictures of the steel perimeter columns with massive gaps in them, what proof do you have?
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The photos and videos of the bowed columns were due to light refraction

Light refracts differently in different angles. It would be impossible for light to bend in refraction in exactly the same way on every camera and video lens regardless of angle
The bow was only on one side of each building. Why didn't it refract around the whole building if it was a product of heat?
Videos show the violent pull in of the columns at the beginning of global collapse. It would be impossible for it to be refracted light
Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Sagging Trusses and Bowed Columns

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I found some footage of alex jones with some farm animals?...Is that what you wanted !
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Your explanation of the collapse times, and the dynamics of #7 are not very convincing.

When I say "low level", in this instance I am talking about within 15 or 20 feet of the ground. Is that the altitude you are using when defining that term?
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Oh yaayyy! The art students have pictures of the punctured EXOSKELETON! Hurrah!

And by suggesting those are the support COLUMNS/outer columns, demonstrate yet again their unfamiliarity with terms and facts.

Looking down from the top, there is the central core comprised of center columns, then there are support columns a bit further out, then there is the exoskeleton.

I have never said the exoskeleton was not penetrated.

One of you said that the perimeter columns or support columns had been severed.

Maybe I misunderstood your point and you meant to say that the EXOSKELETON had been severed.

Does anybody here claim that the support COLUMNS or center COLUMNS were severed?
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Oh yaayyy! The art students have pictures of the punctured EXOSKELETON! Hurrah!

And by suggesting those are the support COLUMNS/outer columns, demonstrate yet again their unfamiliarity with terms and facts.
No what it demostrates is that you are an idiot.

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Looking down from the top, there is the central core comprised of center columns, then there are support columns a bit further out, then there is the exoskeleton.
You couldn't be more wrong. You haven't a clue as to how the WTC towers were constructed.

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I have never said the exoskeleton was not penetrated.

One of you said that the perimeter columns or support columns had been severed.
Because what you refer to as the exoskeleton are the perimeter columns and the spandels that link them together. We've been through this before.

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Maybe I misunderstood your point and you meant to say that the EXOSKELETON had been severed.
No the problem is you have no idea what you are talking about. The perimeter columns are the exoskeleton you refer to.

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Does anybody here claim that the support COLUMNS or center COLUMNS were severed?
Several core columns were also severed and otherwise damaged.

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Your explanation of the collapse times, and the dynamics of #7 are not very convincing.

When I say "low level", in this instance I am talking about within 15 or 20 feet of the ground. Is that the altitude you are using when defining that term?
I define low level as 250 feet AGL. That is the military hard-deck. (But 100 feet is not uncommon, though against the rules). You would have to be above 100 feet in a 767 to have much maneuverability, as you have to consider the wingspan. however, at 100 feet, nose over a gentle 10 degrees and you impact the ground in about 2 seconds. The aircraft would not be maneuvering when it reached 15 feet AGL, it would simply be a projectile.
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I define low level as 250 feet AGL. That is the military hard-deck. (But 100 feet is not uncommon, though against the rules). You would have to be above 100 feet in a 767 to have much maneuverability, as you have to consider the wingspan. however, at 100 feet, nose over a gentle 10 degrees and you impact the ground in about 2 seconds. The aircraft would not be maneuvering when it reached 15 feet AGL, it would simply be a projectile.
A projectile, something almost like a large missile that you were going to crash into something to cause great damage?
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Oh yaayyy! The art students have pictures of the punctured EXOSKELETON! Hurrah!

And by suggesting those are the support COLUMNS/outer columns, demonstrate yet again their unfamiliarity with terms and facts.

Looking down from the top, there is the central core comprised of center columns, then there are support columns a bit further out, then there is the exoskeleton.

I have never said the exoskeleton was not penetrated.

One of you said that the perimeter columns or support columns had been severed.

Maybe I misunderstood your point and you meant to say that the EXOSKELETON had been severed.

Does anybody here claim that the support COLUMNS or center COLUMNS were severed?
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A projectile, something almost like a large missile that you were going to crash into something to cause great damage?
God forbid the terrorist fly their planes in an unsafe manner. That could've been dangerous.
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