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Old 07-19-2008, 08:50 PM   #801 (permalink)
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I thought the "luggage" had been discovered in the car he had "rented" to drive from Boston to Portland so he could catch an early morning flight back to Boston?

That would be the smartest way, wouldn't it? Drive to Portland, risk breakdowns on 2 other vehicles, just so one could get back to where you rented the car from. And of course so one could walk through an ATM to get money for your suicide flight.

And then leave a Boeing manual and a Koran in your "rented car." Yeah, those guys could defeat NORAD with their nifty box cutters and mad flying skills, but couldn't remember to bring his fucking Koran along.

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Debunked only in your most malleable mind. If they were "victims lists" and not "passenger manifests" why were they released by the airlines, and why were they quickly amended when called on it?

Why were they referred to as passenger manifests?

Your "common sense" is about all that has been debunked, assuming you have 1 scintilla of it in your titanium cranium.
They didn't defeat NORAD with boxcutters.

They hijacked planes with boxcutters by slicing peoples throats.

NORAD at that time was mainly focused on outside threats coming into North America. And by the time they got involved, there was mass confusion and since there were no transponders squawking that the planes had been hijacked, it was almost impossible for NORAD to do anything. There are THOUSANDS of planes over the USA at any given moment. And that transponder is crucial to keeping up with them.

I dont know why I'm even trying to explain this to you.....you don't give a damn about the truth.
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...luggage missing a flight is not "strange"

It is when it's your only shard of evidence that the attack was made by the organization you claim it was made by. What else screamed "al Qaeda" (besides Paul Bremmer)?
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It is when it's your only shard of evidence that the attack was made by the organization you claim it was made by. What else screamed "al Qaeda" (besides Paul Bremmer)?
Only shard of evidence.....
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It is when it's your only shard of evidence that the attack was made by the organization you claim it was made by. What else screamed "al Qaeda" (besides Paul Bremmer)?
Duvi...they had other evidence of the plan beside the luggage.
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Those boys at AQ are pretty damn smart, or lucky.

Either they had infiltrated NORAD to know that Vigilant Guardian was being conducted that day, OR they were lucky to choose that day at random.

The transponder issue does not really cut the mustard Brian, as an excuse for the success of the mission. There was way more to it than that. You should read something more than just government press releases.
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Those boys at AQ are pretty damn smart, or lucky.

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A little bit of both.

But you also left out resourceful and determined.
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What you're suggesting Brian, is that NORAD could just as easily be defeated by Russian bombers as they were by AQ "hijackers".

All the Russians would have to do is turn off their transponders, and NORAD could not see them.

To that, I say "bullshit"
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What you're suggesting Brian, is that NORAD could just as easily be defeated by Russian bombers as they were by AQ "hijackers".

All the Russians would have to do is turn off their transponders, and NORAD could not see them.

To that, I say "bullshit"
C'mon Ptech. Are you really this retarded?

NORAD stands for North American Air Defense. Which means they are mainly charged with monitoring traffic outside of the US heading this way. They have stations based all over the world rather than one huge dish that pops out of the top of the mountain.

They dont rely on the transponder signal in order to recognize an attack on the US. That's just stupid.ICBM's dont have transponders in case you didnt know.

Seriously....are you really this retarded?
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Duvi...they had other evidence of the plan beside the luggage.

Such as? And PLEASE don't bring up the bogus Osama interview (i.e. the one in which he was suddenly right-handed and looked more like the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi than any images anyone had ever seen of OBL up until that time).
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It was YOUR argument Brian, not mine. YOU were the one who excused the events of the day because the transponders were turned off.

What 3 hours ago, 4? Gimme a fucking break idiot.

The radar system was spoofed that day, and that is the critical part of telling the rest of the story.

It was an inside job, and you're in denial.
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