djack

I don't pretend to have inside knowledge about the WTC.
However I do know a few basic facts and went to school for a while.
1.The fire from the planes fuel weakened the steel girders?
Basic lie. Steel melts at 1500+ degrees.
The highest temperature jet fuel could reach is 800+ degrees.
2.The Pentagon was struck by a 747?
The damage to the Pentagon is 120 feet wide. A 747 is 164 feet wide.
3.Passengers DNA was found at the Pentagon?
Tests were conducted by a forensic team from Dover Air Force Base, There was no one closer than 2,000 miles who could do an autopsy and test for DNA. Of course, Dover personnel would be much easier to control.
Therefore you have the word of habitual liars about what happened.

Really when you say you know what happened you just show your ignorance. You really don't.

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brian_wilbanks

Basic facts????

Circus

Who to believe? "Djack", who tries to recall way back to high school? Or Deputiy fire chief Vincent Dunn who claims the heat of the fire was more than enough to sufficiently weaken the steel.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=4
The "fire wasn't hot enough to weaken steel" argument is pretty much completely abandoned by the "truth" (lol) community. Djack is way behind.

The damage caused by the plane was 160 feet wide. The hole (caused by the main plane body and it's engines) was 120 feet wide. Purdue University measured the damage caused by the wings, and it matched precisely with the wingspan of a boeing 757.
I suppose Djack will just say the scientists were paid off. Or something stupid. No doubt it will be stupid, though.

I see. So whenever science, evidence, and facts works against what you want to believe, you'll just say "planted", or "paid off". Typical.

So the plane was hijacked and last seen heading towards the pentagon (we know that). All the passengers are gone (we know that). The damage at the pentagon matches precisely with the wingspan of the plane. The planes engines, landing gear, black boxes, parts of fuselage, and tire rims were all found inside the pentagon. 700 eyewitnesses saw a large plane hit the pentagon. And the bodies of all the passengers were identified through dna analysis.

I guess "Djack" knows better though. Afterall, he watched some conspiracy videos on the internet.

djack

Bless the chief's heart. I'm sure he's brave and honorable. He can't however change the fact that steel melts at 1500 degrees and the fuel could only reach 800 degrees. Now if the chief told you the world was flat would you agree?
You have the chief's opinion while I only have centuries of metallurgical tests and data to go by.
Actually I didn't say anything was faked or planted. I observed that it was somewhat odd that they had to bring people from Dover.
You, as most of your ilk, use the excluded middle argument. If you have questions you are accusing someone of lying. I presented the facts and you assumed since it questioned your belief that it was bogus.
However the melting point of steel isn't in question for anyone with a grade school education. Neither is the maximum temp that jet fuel could reach.
Look it up. Unless the millions of scientists who have found those facts to be true are lying and Bush/Cheney is telling the truth for once.

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djack

My god! You didn't link to Popular Mechanics. Get out!!! LOL.

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DanS.

Steel doesn't have to be "melting" to be weakened.

voodoo

It sure has to be 'something' to fall into itself.

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It's the truth, stupid.

slowhand

Heat up any piece of steel up with an acetylene torch, and you can bend it no problem..and it certainly doesnt have to be heated up to 1500 degrees

sunflower

So the towers were built 1/4 mile up in the sky with just any type of steel, huh?

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slowhand

Why..What do you think they used?..Stainless?..