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Old 09-20-2008, 02:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not when the big two are so anxious to openly violate election law and engage in intimidation tactics.

Third parties also lack the $100s of Millions to spend on election campaign/advertisement. Third parties need corporate sponsorship in a corporate state.

So to even the playing field, government funded campaigns with PSA media advertisements only. No private money allowed, period.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Third parties also lack the $100s of Millions to spend on election campaign/advertisement. Third parties need corporate sponsorship in a corporate state.

So to even the playing field, government funded campaigns with PSA media advertisements only. No private money allowed, period.
....what if I wanted to run for Pres? Would I be given the same amount of money as anybody else?
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....what if I wanted to run for Pres? Would I be given the same amount of money as anybody else?
Yep. Just have to cull the crazies (say administrative pro-corporate types ) by limiting the field to, oh say, top 5 or so poll number garnering candidates.
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Third parties also lack the $100s of Millions to spend on election campaign/advertisement. Third parties need corporate sponsorship in a corporate state.

So to even the playing field, government funded campaigns with PSA media advertisements only. No private money allowed, period.
Worse than that is the fact the two big boys file slapsuits against third parties knowing that the cases would get dismissed, but not before the elections. It also forces pipsqueak parties to spend what little campaign funds they get into defending their rights in court.
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I'll vote for a third party as soon as one fields a candidate who does more than whine about being in the third party and works to find a way to get his message out there.

Obama was not playing on a level playing field from inside a major party either.......but he was determined to play.

I will agree that the cards are stacked against a third party bigtime. HOWEVER as long as those who want to be in a third party think that it will change soley by them pointing out that obvious fact ad nauseum then they will remain marginalized.
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I'll vote for a third party as soon as one fields a candidate who does more than whine about being in the third party and works to find a way to get his message out there.


Actually they have been doing more, much more. but the big media won't cover it because third parties won't offer the same free lunch the two big parties do.

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Obama was not playing on a level playing field from inside a major party either.......but he was determined to play.
Having a [D] or [R] gives a far larger advantage than most are willing to admit.
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Actually they have been doing more, much more. but the big media won't cover it because third parties won't offer the same free lunch the two big parties do.
No more BUTS buddy! Then get the message out without the media or quit whining. The playing field does not get leveled by whining about it.

Blacks did not wait to get the support of the mass media to boycott the gas stations in mississippi. Nor did they have corporate support or government support or even mass support among their own people. Yet the TM Howards and the ED Nixon's kept on trying and planning and building the movement well before MLK stepped in.

There are REASONS why people like Hillary Clinton actively participate in the suppression of the history of the civil rights movement in the USA. Keep folks boo hooing about how hard it is and how someone else should change something to make it easier.........

It not only CAN be done----it HAS been done. Knowing the history of the civil rights movement would provide too much of a road map.



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Yeah----- so????
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No more BUTS buddy! Then get the message out without the media or quit whining.
I do that already. After helping "People For The American Way" in their E-mail petitions and letters to congress they called me to ask for stories of voter fraud. So I spelled out in detail what happens against third parties.

Needless to say, I soon discovered the "People For The American Way" really don't give a shit about a fair electoral process unless those votes go to one party in particular, and it ain't republicans.

I'm just glad I didn't pay good money to help those pricks.
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I do that already. After helping "People For The American Way" in their E-mail petitions and letters to congress they called me to ask for stories of voter fraud. So I spelled out in detail what happens against third parties.

Needless to say, I soon discovered the "People For The American Way" really don't give a shit about a fair electoral process unless those votes go to one party in particular, and it ain't republicans.

I'm just glad I didn't pay good money to help those pricks.
Ron Paul people seem to get the point and if they don't diffuse they will be able to make a formidable case in 2012.
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Barr is giving the major parties a taste of their own tactics, so I guess that's good. I know the GOP sued to get him taken off the Pennsylvania ballot.

I don't buy Barr's libertarian credentials, and I think he's still basically a Republican. But maybe he's a Republican who could do some good.
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