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Old 12-20-2007, 09:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Busted! So-called White Supremacist Group Exposed As Israeli Propaganda Operation!

BUSTED! SO-CALLED WHITE SUPREMICIST GROUP EXPOSED AS ISRAELI PROPAGANDA OPERATION!

Every time the Israeli lobbyists in the United States demand more money or more special legal protections, they wave about these so-called "Neo-nazi" or "White Supremacist" groups like Stormfront and the American Nazi Party. AIPAC, ADL, JDL, and their ilk raise tons of money by waving these boogie-men around as a real imminent threat and danger!

Yet no matter what laws get passed and no matter how many millions ADL, JDL, etc. raise, Stormfront and the American Nazi Party remain strangely unmolested by either criminal or civil actions.

How very strange!!!

So, earlier today, the Commander of the American Nazi Party, one Bill White, posted an article on the official American Nazis website an article accusing rising Presidential candidate Ron Paul of being a "Secret" White Supremacist.

Now, one might suppose that the American Nazi party would be happy to have a candidate who shares their views, and one might assume that Bill White is smart enough to know that making such a public accusation is going to be quite harmful to the candidate he claims shares his philosophy. Indeed it does appear that Bill White's accusation is intended to cause as much harm to Ron Paul as possible.

Of course, Bill White's claim did not do much more than incite a great deal of laughter. But in their haste to get this message out, one of Bill's minions slipped up.

Rather than cut and paste the text of Bill's accusations, one of the members of Bill's blog, apparently to prove the story's source, screen captured Bill's article, posted it to various newsgroups and in doing so, let slip a rather interesting secret.

Here is that screen capture.

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Note the tiny little icon indicated by the arrow in the Windows toolbar. It's a megaphone. But not just ANY Megaphone, it is the icon proving that the member of Bill White's American Nazi group is ALSO a member of Megaphone, the Israeli propaganda communications network!

Here is what the Megaphone looks like when it is running.



More about Megaphone can be found at Wikipedia and more about Bill White and his many fronts can be found HERE.

But what we have here is what appears to be a group of self-proclaimed NeoNazis using the Israeli propaganda network!

... which goes a long way to explaining why they are never arrested or sued by those groups that raise so much money using them as scarecrows!
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No dice on the AIPAC card. While I agree absolutely that AIPAC wields an absurd amount of clout in AMERICAN politics, that's got nothin' to do with the Ku Klux Klan.

No dice on the fake boogie man card, either. The Ku Klux Klan is the real McCoy.

Good job, though, squeezing your OWN propaganda into the thread title...what they call a good use of floor space in Olympic gymnastics, yes?
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BUSTED! SO-CALLED WHITE SUPREMICIST GROUP EXPOSED AS ISRAELI PROPAGANDA OPERATION!

Every time the Israeli lobbyists in the United States demand more money or more special legal protections, they wave about these so-called "Neo-nazi" or "White Supremacist" groups like Stormfront and the American Nazi Party. AIPAC, ADL, JDL, and their ilk raise tons of money by waving these boogie-men around as a real imminent threat and danger!

Yet no matter what laws get passed and no matter how many millions ADL, JDL, etc. raise, Stormfront and the American Nazi Party remain strangely unmolested by either criminal or civil actions.

How very strange!!!

So, earlier today, the Commander of the American Nazi Party, one Bill White, posted an article on the official American Nazis website an article accusing rising Presidential candidate Ron Paul of being a "Secret" White Supremacist.

Now, one might suppose that the American Nazi party would be happy to have a candidate who shares their views, and one might assume that Bill White is smart enough to know that making such a public accusation is going to be quite harmful to the candidate he claims shares his philosophy. Indeed it does appear that Bill White's accusation is intended to cause as much harm to Ron Paul as possible.

Of course, Bill White's claim did not do much more than incite a great deal of laughter. But in their haste to get this message out, one of Bill's minions slipped up.

Rather than cut and paste the text of Bill's accusations, one of the members of Bill's blog, apparently to prove the story's source, screen captured Bill's article, posted it to various newsgroups and in doing so, let slip a rather interesting secret.

Here is that screen capture.

Click for full size image.

Note the tiny little icon indicated by the arrow in the Windows toolbar. It's a megaphone. But not just ANY Megaphone, it is the icon proving that the member of Bill White's American Nazi group is ALSO a member of Megaphone, the Israeli propaganda communications network!

Here is what the Megaphone looks like when it is running.



More about Megaphone can be found at Wikipedia and more about Bill White and his many fronts can be found HERE.

But what we have here is what appears to be a group of self-proclaimed NeoNazis using the Israeli propaganda network!

... which goes a long way to explaining why they are never arrested or sued by those groups that raise so much money using them as scarecrows!
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Bill White's claims DEBUNKED!
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FLASHBACK: Neo-Nazi rally was organized by FBI informant

WRH: Posted in light of the Bill White smear of Ron Paul.

Reports are that Bill White, who is mentioned briefly in this story, was the original organizer of the rally, then handed it off to David Gletty.

Given the apparent link from members of White's organization to Megaphone, the Israeli propaganda network, I felt it was worth reminding people that this is hardly the first time the people the government tells us we are supposed to be afraid of turn out to work for the government.
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...I felt it was worth reminding people that this is hardly the first time the people the government tells us we are supposed to be afraid of turn out to work for the government.
Good man.

Likewise, it is worth reminding people that, historically, Ku Klux Klan do not publicly announce themselves but, rather, work under wraps. Hence, the robes and hoods.
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FLASHBACK: Neo-Nazi rally was organized by FBI informant

WRH: Posted in light of the Bill White smear of Ron Paul.

Reports are that Bill White, who is mentioned briefly in this story, was the original organizer of the rally, then handed it off to David Gletty.

Given the apparent link from members of White's organization to Megaphone, the Israeli propaganda network, I felt it was worth reminding people that this is hardly the first time the people the government tells us we are supposed to be afraid of turn out to work for the government.
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I don't buy into this story, but...
During those hours at Stormfront when I was looking into the whole Ron Paul is a racist nonsense, one of the posts that I looked at concerned this Bill White guy. From what I read, this guy is considered to be either a crackpot, or a plant.

I don't know either way. But I try hard not to deal in absolutes. And I've read enough about Psyops to know that a very effective technique for discrediting your enemy is to pose as one of them and make yourself look bad in order to discredit them. A case in point which I'm sure you've heard about is the Mounties posing as protesters.....


...which of course was pooh-poohed until, that is, they admitted to it....


I would also recommend a book by Gordon Thomas called Gideon's SpysGideon's Spys . It's a great inside account of Mossad tactics, which just happen to include infiltration.

Now, I'm figuring at this point, you're starting to think I'm some KKK plant, since for the last couple days, I've been defending what on the surface seem to be Racist/Nazi/white supremacist views. Not so.

What I am, is a huge sceptic of anything and everything that is accepted as 'common knowledge' in the political realm. I just flat out don't believe anything the government, or our freshly consolidated 'voice of the people' media feed us. And I thank the Flying spaghetti monster every day that Al Gore invented the intertubes when he did, because I think it's the only thing that has kept independent voices alive, and our nation from becoming a dictatorship.

That having been said, I don't know, nor do I really care whether Bill Whites accusations are true or not. But from a pure skeptics point of view, why would anyone attempt to cause what may be irreparable harm to the only candidate who even remotely shares their interests? It just smells fishy, and until I see more proof, I just can't buy it.
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I don't buy into this story, but...
During those hours at Stormfront when I was looking into the whole Ron Paul is a racist nonsense, one of the posts that I looked at concerned this Bill White guy. From what I read, this guy is considered to be either a crackpot, or a plant.

I don't know either way. But I try hard not to deal in absolutes. And I've read enough about Psyops to know that a very effective technique for discrediting your enemy is to pose as one of them and make yourself look bad in order to discredit them. A case in point which I'm sure you've heard about is the Mounties posing as protesters.....

YouTube - Police Pose As Protesters At Montebello Summit

...which of course was pooh-poohed until, that is, they admitted to it....

YouTube - Police Admit To Undercover Protesters At Montebello Summit

I would also recommend a book by Gordon Thomas called Gideon's Spys. It's a great inside account of Mossad tactics, which just happen to include infiltration.

Now, I'm figuring at this point, you're starting to think I'm some KKK plant, since for the last couple days, I've been defending what on the surface seem to be Racist/Nazi/white supremacist views. Not so.

What I am, is a huge sceptic of anything and everything that is accepted as 'common knowledge' in the political realm. I just flat out don't believe anything the government, or our freshly consolidated 'voice of the people' media feed us. And I thank the Flying spaghetti monster every day that Al Gore invented the intertubes when he did, because I think it's the only thing that has kept independent voices alive, and our nation from becoming a dictatorship.

That having been said, I don't know, nor do I really care whether Bill Whites accusations are true or not. But from a pure skeptics point of view, why would anyone attempt to cause what may be irreparable harm to the only candidate who even remotely shares their interests? It just smells fishy, and until I see more proof, I just can't buy it.
Chances are, if VK posted it, its probably bullshit..Hes got an uncanny knack for posting shit the grocery store tabloids would be envious of..
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