Originally Posted by jdanton

Actually, what she said was that while we have a lot of coal, the question is if we have, or can we develop technology to keep it clean enough.

She's also said she'd consider funding for some research in this area.

Originally Posted by ThetaBurst

Bullshit, start to finish.

You misrepresent what he said, you turn it into your own benign understanding of Barack Obama (nothing new), you make insulting statements which only serve to accentuate your blind faith in Hillary Clinton.

We all know your game.



So, which is it then, JD?!

How can you say something like that, in the same breath as "he said, it's not his job to get anything done" (above)?

You are so full of shit.

Originally Posted by gorillamom

Right meaning any new business created to solve this problem will be monopolized by the coal industry. If John Joe wants to open a business will he have to open a "Franchized" business from the Coal industry? Will one be able to create and own their "OWN" unfranchized business? And who will provide the funding, the middle class workers paying their taxes letting the coal industry off the hook yet again. Same with gas stations.......

Originally Posted by jdanton

He didn't say tax break, he said "rebate" from payroll taxes.

$500 to 150 million people is 1.5 trillion dollars, is it not.

This would appear to be a totally separate thing from any tax cuts.

This money would have to be paid back to the funds they are rebated from, no?

He says the people will spend this money. Maybe. More likely most of it will go toward bills Even if they do spend it, unless they spend it on goods made in America, it's just taking a scenic route to China, is it not?

This reminds me, sorry to say, of our contract negotiations. Mangement would include a signing bonus of $300 if the contract was approved, and it would get approve over the objection of the union.

People simply wanted their $300 check. They didn't care what else was in the contract, until a few months later.

We tried to get the workers a better pay raise, which would be permanent and, over the years, be a lot more than that $300 bonus check.

EVERYONE, I think, is in favor of tax cuts for the middle and lower class, but I refer to his economic stimulus package he introduced this past week and described in the debate.

Originally Posted by jdanton

To my knowledge, she hasn't addressed any of that. All I've heard HER actually say is that she doesn't believe we can get energy from coal in a clean enough method, but she's open to some funding for research.

What follows the research will depend upon what the research finds, no? Her comments I heard in an interview recently on this were basically the future of coal will depend upon how "cleanly" we can get the energy.

That seems logical to me.

This is one area where people seem to be looking ahead too far.

Originally Posted by jdanton

And you can't read.

Originally Posted by jdanton

Obama actually copped out. As president, he said, basically, it's not his job to get anything done. It's his job simply to decide what he wants to do.

Originally Posted by jdanton

He didn't say tax break, he said "rebate" from payroll taxes.