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Old 01-30-2008, 11:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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A lot of Floridians went to the polls yesterday and cast a vote. Taking a "why'd they bother" position seems somewhat insulting to me.

Wouldn't it be better to thank them all for voting? Especially knowing that they weren't sending any delegates?
EXACTLY JD>that fucker didn't even thank his own voters.
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She announced in advance of Florida's voting that she'd visit the state, effectively breaking her pledge. Now I agree that Florida shouldn't have lost their delegates for simply trying to break an unfair monopoly held by fuckin' Iowa and New Hampshire, but she did promise not to go and went anyway.

Time for Hillary to spawn a new drone to attack with.
When?

How does Obama "unite" the country by dissing Florida voters?

What is wrong with visiting the state after the vote and thanking the people who voted?
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She may not have gotten any delegates out of it but she did get a "win" in the state and that gives her momentum moving forward no matter how you look at it.
I think some here feel she should have declared a loss in florida.

What I don't see is ANY candidate implying those people shouldn't have bothered to vote because their votes are "meaningless."

I think the turnout itself, considering they knew of the delegate situtation means something, no?
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She announced in advance of Florida's voting that she'd visit the state, effectively breaking her pledge. Now I agree that Florida shouldn't have lost their delegates for simply trying to break an unfair monopoly held by fuckin' Iowa and New Hampshire, but she did promise not to go and went anyway.
Time for Hillary to spawn a new drone to attack with.
BULLSHIT. why don't you first learn what you comment on about Florida.

They are allowed to fund raise.
They are allowed to do photo-ops.
They are not allowed to campaign - no rallies. no speeches.
SHe did neither.

GOT IT!!! ???
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I think some here feel she should have declared a loss in florida.
There is no one here who says Hillary should have declared a loss in
Florida.
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that jerk just dissed the entire Democaric Party in florida.
HE WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE -EVER
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I think some here feel she should have declared a loss in florida.

What I don't see is ANY candidate implying those people shouldn't have bothered to vote because their votes are "meaningless."

I think the turnout itself, considering they knew of the delegate situtation means something, no?
Oh it means something alright, we all know Hillary isn't my candidate but regardless of that we have to be realistic. It's a big win, maybe no delegates but any state that is "won" is a victory for the respective candidate. Also, if they some how get their delegates back you can bet your ass it will make a difference.
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I find it very interesting that Obama actually won more support than Clinton from voters who made up their minds in the last three days, in the last week, and in the last month, than Clinton did.

Average these together and Obama won 44% to 36%.

Clinton won huge support from absentee voting 50% for Clinton to Obama's 31%.

Absentee ballots were sent in back in December and I wonder if more than a few would rather have their ballot back to make a change one way or the other.

Seems to me that Obama was definitely surging in Florida.
Obama's surging everywhere, and it's not surprising, given the media coverage.

What happens to Obama's surge if the mainstream media actually investigates and reports on his dealings with that "slum lord" and the voters, in large numbers learn:

The man was a slum lord.
Obama did represent him.
He sold Obama a home for $300,000 under market value
He was Obama's first campaign contributor
Obama has now given that money to charity.

Instead, our marvelous media has taken Bill and Hillary's words out of context and misrepresented them again and again.


Is it too much to ask that the media is fair and balanced, and accurate, in all of this?
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that jerk just dissed the entire Democaric Party in florida.
HE WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE -EVER
We've known that since day one dude, now take a deep breath and try and relax.

(ducks while waiting for another scream attack in all caps)
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EXACTLY JD>that fucker didn't even thank his own voters.
Fuck Obama
Sure seems a strange way to "reach out" and unify.

I'll still vote for him if he's the nominee, but I have to say I like him less with each passing week.

I can only hope that MSM starts taking a closer look at him.

Maybe this debate, since there's only two candidates, they'll be pressed for more details.
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