jdanton

When the media stops fanning the flames.

The MEDIA started this "war."

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MarkMiller

Well, we can't control the media......but we can control ourselves.......right?

jdanton

Absolutely, I've said all along I'll vote for whomever gets the democratic nomination.

My REASONING, I think, is pretty solid.

My support for Hillary has come from her being more forthcoming in details as to how she'll try to achieve her goals. I count her years as first lady as a plus, and give her the edge on experience and knowing how to get things through the system.

Past that, Obama and Clinton voice goals pretty similar to each other. Aside from whichever of them leaves their seat in Congress to be president, the congressional make up will be identical whichever of the two ends up in the White House.

To me, that means the bills that come out of congress will be the same.

Foreign policy differences are minor. Both have pledged to talk to enemies as well as friends. Hillary just seems a little more privy to how that system works.

As an example of Hillary's more thought out process, the first thing she'd do concerning getting out of Iraq is ask the Joint Chiefs to put together a plan.

To me this is just like baking a cake. The first thing I do is make sure I have all the needed ingredients before lighting the oven.

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Curator

If you don't KNOW what your candidate stands for by now then I can't help you.

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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.”

"For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.”
- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials.

MarkMiller

Just being an ass doesn't prove anything more than you can be an ass.

Curator

It's not my fault you don't know what she stands for. You just believe in what you think she stands for.

Wanted to help clarify your position

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything, or anyone.

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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.”

"For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.”
- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials.

MarkMiller

LOL! You spend far too much time trying to tell others what they mean. Why do you care so much what I think?

Are you on such shaky ground that all you can do is attack the supporters of the other candidate? You prove that you...no one else but you, are unable to stay focused on what's good about your candidate that you have to do this kind of elementary school games.

HarperLee

"[HILLARY'S] ELECTABILITY"
By Jonathan Chait, in The New Republic, January 21, 2008


Hillary Clinton is a highly unpopular figure. In the last Gallup survey, 50% of respondents have a favorable view of her, and 46% negative. Sometimes her averages goes higher, but sometimes it veers into negative territory. Obama has very high ratings. In the most recent poll, 59% view him favorably, 32% negatively. The difference between plus 4 and plus 27 is enormous--a Detroit Lions v. New England Patriots-size gap.

On top of that, independents who vote in the primaries and caucuses have shown a very strong preference for Obama over Clinton. That is the closest available approximation of a swing voter. (Some Clinton supporters have pointed to her strength among lower-income Democrats in the primary, but a low-income Democratic primary voter is not the same thing as a working class swing voter.)

In 2000, Clinton ran five points behind Al Gore in the state of New York, and it's not like Gore was the most popular politician who ever lived. That's who she is--a figure who is disliked by pretty much everybody who isn't a sure-fire Democrat, and even some people who are. You can imagine Obama running a horrible general election campaign and becoming less popular. No doubt his favorable ratings would drop a bit in the face of Republican attacks, as would hers. But for him to become as unpopular as Clinton already is--without months of nation-side attack ads--is a worst-case scenario.

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mudwhistle

The only way Democratic candidates losing primaries ever make up ground is by attacking the frontrunner. John Kerry was losing to Howard Dean until he started attacking him relentlessly. Barry Hussein was getting creamed by Cankles until he starting attacking her a few weeks before the Iowa caucus.

Barry Hussein is a divider and you can see it here. Look at Theta's starting all these threads attacking Cankles. What do you think he'll do against the Republican if he wins the nomination, play nice?

Cankles is serious - a serious MARXIST.

Democrats say Republicans are full of hate but you guys are the ones who like all the dirty politics and attack ads.

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Curator

"Cankles"...."Barry"

I don't think you even know who is running for President.

You can't even get their names correct.

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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.”

"For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.”
- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials.