CosmicRocker

I won't even respond - you take stories of isolated incidents and do INDEED paint a broad brush.
Fiction becomes fact if you repeat the same hyperboyle over and over.

Do you think The Vietnam Veterans against the War acted that way?
We were brothers.
It was a time of extreme radicalism, so there was radical behavior by some few.
I never saw it, and i was in quite a few demonsrations

The majority of the anti-war movement embraced the soldiers with a welcome home, and vented the hatred towards the NixonWarpigs. " Peace Now"

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PursuitOfHappinessParty

She is also tied to corporatism with her association with Wal-Mart. She was very supportive of her husband with NAFTA and corporations being given a much freer rein when it came to media ownership. Big boon to private insurance companies with that lobby friendly UHC package, too. Her record in dealing with Bush from the Hill is deplorable for someone wishing to be my 'Lead Citizen'.

For good reasons. Obama is the big spending creature of the far left that will give Republicans all the excuses they need. McCain is a NeoCon puppet, but compared to the last two Republican presidents he's no unilateralist nor is he controlled by the party. Pretty bleak either choice.

The most sensible thing anyone's said all day. I am a registered Independent. Flirted with Libertarian Party in the early 90s, but they went too corporate and anti-citizen for my taste. I feel the Green Party is also too much of an embodiment of big spending, but I am an old Nader fan. Unfortunately, he's a couple elections too late, and like McCain he's too old at 74. Maybe I'll write in Bloomberg just to annoy both the Dems and the GOP. Maybe it'll make Diebold select Robin Williams in a glitch.

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Noob920

That is certainly your choice. As an AMERICAN, you have that choice.

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

I am usually a nice easy going person........ Although ever time I drive by that bar my Xwife cheated on me @ I get a bit troubled.........

But I am sure that is not the reason I kick that damn dog after........

Seems like he deserves it when I take that route home......

gonzo

"Clinton would end the tax breaks that exist in the tax code for outsourcing jobs and have trade agreements with enforceable labor and environmental standards."

Credit: CNN Issues: Election Center 2008 - CNN.com

PursuitOfHappinessParty

Maybe. Unless Wal-Mart needs more cheap products. This stance won't include NAFTA. Also doesn't address furthering corporate domination in the media. Don't see any chance of election reform, either. Haven't heard any Clinton talk tough about China.

Just sayin'.........

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OldManOnFire

I frequently find it so interesting how so many people talk so disparagingly about China. And although there are many exporters to the US, we seem to believe it all comes only from China?

Regarding Wal-Mart...they would not exist, nor would they be the largest retailer in the world, without you and me and hundreds of millions more people shopping there--this is a fact Jack!!

Stupid Americans complain all the time about China or outsourcing taking jobs from the USA, but give 99% of the Americans a choice to buy something made in China for $7.99 or the same item crafted in the USA that sells for $15.00, they buy the cheaper item.

US people perpetuate imports because this gives us more choices and lower prices. No one is holding a gun to our heads when we make our weekly trek into Wal-Mart or any other store selling imports!

There are American-made products everywhere, and because of our high cost of labor and materials, the cost on these items are very high...too high for the average guy to afford.

This issue IS NOT ABOUT WAL-MART, it's about American shopping habits. I wish Wal-Mart, and K-Mart and Target would close for about three months and let all the whiny-babies pay full price for everything. Perhaps this will make everyone happy?

But then I realize that people who complain all the time, especially those who wish to always blame someone else for everything, will never ever ever ever be happy...

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PursuitOfHappinessParty

OMOF;
To paraphrase John Adams, there is a difference between profits and profiteering. Wal-Mart wouldn't exist if they didn't use predatory prices and you know it. They can offer selection and pricing that local retailers can't match. This is profiteering, a gambit used by corporations that hides as profits instead. Akin to monopoly, corporations use unrealistic clout. Once the market share is centered upon the Wal-marts, what's going to happen to that selection and prices? Wal-Mart prices already don't look as competitive as they did in the 80's when they were carpet-bagging local retailers, does it? I don't know about your Wal-Mart experiences, but I notice in small towns that once the competition is gone, the selection in the Wal-Mart becomes selective. Notice they keep making more rooms, and thus have less room, for new ventures to drive out yet more local retailers: tires, salons, eye exams, eyewear, florist, grocery, bank, McDonald, and?
As to China, it's a great example due to volume. Great example for use of comparing safety and consumer issues too. But the story stays the same whichever nation with impoverished people you use. Nike even downgraded their wage needs by switching to communist slave labor in RVN. Give the people no real choice and then blame them for choosing. Outsourcing, BTW, often is done at the price of foreign slave labor and unfair wage differences. Level the playing field there with true import taxation and tarriffs and then you can play the 'blame the consumer' game. For you corporatists, this stale argument didn't fare any better when you tried them on Nader in the 70s and 80s.

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winthrop

You only left out Wal Mart's practices toward it employees, and the fact that it is often the only retail employer hiring in a particular region after its monopolistic scouring of competition.

OldManOnFire

You are so off-base in your opinions on this that it is impossible for me to devote enough time to debate you. Sorry...

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OldManOnFire

This is such BS and so is the entire Wal-Mart hater attitude. Too bad you cannot imagine the type of life many would have if all of us still lived in Mayberry RFD!!

Like I said before, I wish all the Wal-Mart type stores would close for three months and then we would see some real cry-babies...

BTW...Wal-Mart is opening 400 MEDICAL CLINICS in their stores and will expand as it makes sense. So if I could predict the future, I will know that in about two years, you and others will be blaming Wal-Mart for taking business from the current medical industry. It won't make any difference to you that millions will use this service, or that it will be cheaper than existing health care, or that the quality will be equal; you will find some way to twist their successes, and the qualities they bring to so many people's lives, into some cry-baby story about all that is wrong in this country. And not once will you or others fathom that all the problems that exist today are brought on by PEOPLE's behaviors, therefore, all the solutions lie with the PEOPLE. But I know for many it is much easier to blame everyone else for our ills rather than to take a good hard look in our mirrors...

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