Heretic

The bad part is it was Hillary (R) Clinton who tried to pull race into the election when she later accused Obama of doing it. But you're right, she'll have to destroy her party in order to win and even then she'll lose disasterously in the general election.

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Heretic

That's a pretty good synopsis... other than the myths of "far left" existing in this country in any appreciable numbers.

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Heretic

But dead on accurate.

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HarperLee

We can only hope that these superdelegates realize that Hillary
cannot win the general election. Some poll yesterday predicted
that McCain could beat Clinton and that Obama could beat McCain.

If the superdelegates go with Hillary Clinton, Molly Ivins will be spinning in her grave -- again, Ivins said that the Democrats never miss a chance to miss a chance.

Heretic

I still marvel at how the D.I.N.O.'s won in 2006. It took fifty scandles on the part of the republicans for the D.I.N.O.'s to get a five seat majority in the senate and thirty something in the house. In any normal country any one of those scandles would've completely buried the repubilcans and give any opposition a supermajority.

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jdanton

I'm still waiting for an example of anyone bringing race into this before the media did when they used it to explain how their polls were so wrong in NH.

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chambers92

LOL, I guess I am sort of an aging hippie.

Anyhow, you're entitled to your opinion but I disagree with you about Hillary and Iraq. She fucked up by voting for the war but unlike McCain, I think she'll do her best to get us out of there if she's elected. Wes Clark will most likey have a place in her admin and I'm sure he's not in favor of keeping our troops there. Lord only knows who McCain will have in his admin. Not only will McCain keep our toops in Iraq but he's also got his eye on Iran.

I usually try to stay out of these discusions and I know if this is what you really believe then I'm certainly not going to change your mind or anyone elses.

winthrop

As you know, CosmicRocker, unlike some of our younger friends here, we "aging hippies" changed the world, some of us think for the better, helping bring women and other minorities out of the cages the previous eras had kept locked and sealed, taking to the streets in an attempt to end the slaughter in Vietnam, and modernizing the culture, including removing the stigma and fear from even a frank and open discussion, never mind the practice, of sex.
Were we perfect? Hardly. Our openness to exploration and alternative perceptions led many of us into the black hole of drug addiction and death, and the cleaving of love from sex had its own disadvantages. Too many of our number simply gave up and spent the '70s dancing and snorting cocaine and finally believing our and the world's best interests were served by a doddering old manipulative and manipulating fool like Reagan.
But we had seen our heroes shot down in the streets for daring to not only question the status quo, but acting to change it, so despair and cynicism, although hardly desirable traits, were neither surprising. Many of us, however, have continued dreaming and have fought the gathering darkness every way we could.
It is natural and right that ensuing generations should look upon their predecessors as wrong and outdated, that the new kids have all the right answers and experience counts for nothing. We did it. In some ways we were right, in some ways wrong. Our fathers and grandfathers were, perhaps, right in their warnings about the dangers of some of the substances we used in the search for our own path (although their choices of alcohol, tranquilizers and tobacco were hardly good ones), and in their view that the quality of the sexual experience improves with commitment and romance. But they were wrong that women were weak and unable to cope with life on their own or able to do jobs as well as men, that Blacks were somehow unworthy of equality and dignity, that the government should always be trusted and if we entered or fought a war, then that war was just and necessary.
Just as we were, these young people coming into their own are sick and tired of the dominance of the previous generation, to the point that they may be inclined to overlook whatever wisdom we have gained by our checkered experience. But we "aging hippies" have been here before and caution comes with experience and age. Caution does not mean, however, that we are any less bold and ready for change as the youngsters, after all we made all of this possible.

RK77

If you want to try to ride Hillary in on the coat tails of Obama----forget it!

Hillary cannot see Obama's vision---not even kind of!

She does not even have a PLAN to achieve her own healthcare debacle --- which she finally admitted on This Week!

She talks about the quality of healthcare but does not have any of the points in her plan that Obama does about monitoring the actual quality of the care.

There is NOTHING unique about Hillary----NOTHING.

Her performance has been dismal.

Her voting record is atrocious.

She has flip flopped repeatedly.

Her resume is delusional.

Until those supporting her can show me something accurate and honest about some strength she has I can not vote for her either.

RK77

Matthews just now:

"Hillary Clinton offers improvement. Barrack Obama offers change......

One is grand and macro. One is particular and micro."