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Old 02-10-2008, 04:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They both make me sick at this point, but neither of them make me as afraid as John McCain does.
I disagree..Hillary scares the crap out of me

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/op...=1&oref=slogin
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I disagree..Hillary scares the crap out of me

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I don't get it? What's so scary there?
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sen. Hillary Clinton, viewed last year as virtually unstoppable in her bid to become the U.S. Democratic presidential nominee, is now seeking to portray herself as the underdog against rival Sen. Barack Obama.

The Clinton campaign has labeled the Illinois senator the "establishment" candidate as she tries to wrest from him the message of a vow to bring change to Washington.
Maybe this latest gimmick is why she has fired her campaign manager as of today.
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They both make me sick at this point, but neither of them make me as afraid as John McCain does.
Interesting Teri, how is he making you sick. What in particular is he doing that sickens you?

Hope and Change are mere words until the mass people believe in it enough to do something, like get involved in record numbers to help change happen. Is that stupid to you? (now I sound like JD yikes)

I don't mean to ask rhetorical questions, but I don't see him doing anything but deliver his message that he has been saying from the beginning. He is inspiring people to care about the political process and care enough to get involved. I would think everyone would champion that concept.
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I don't get it? What's so scary there?
lol...that wasn't necessarily posted to back up the scary part...I found it interesting..

But it is obvious you didn't read it

A race-tinged brawl at the convention, some nine weeks before Election Day, will not be a Hallmark moment. As Mr. Wilkins reiterated to me last week, it will be a flashback to the Democratic civil war of 1968, a suicide for the party no matter which victor ends up holding the rancid spoils
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Maybe this latest gimmick is why she has fired her campaign manager as of today.
Yeah, I just read that too. Hmmmmm . . . I'm not sure what it means, but I'm sure the pundits will have a field day with it. Doesn't seem like it was a wise move at this stage.
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lol...that wasn't necessarily posted to back up the scary part...I found it interesting..

But it is obvious you didn't read it

A race-tinged brawl at the convention, some nine weeks before Election Day, will not be a Hallmark moment. As Mr. Wilkins reiterated to me last week, it will be a flashback to the Democratic civil war of 1968, a suicide for the party no matter which victor ends up holding the rancid spoils
I still don't get it, and I'll have you know, I perused it.

One of them is going to HAVE to cry uncle and make a deal, if they really do care what happens to this country. They'd both show me they had some real courage and convictions if they do, but they won't.
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Yeah, I just read that too. Hmmmmm . . . I'm not sure what it means, but I'm sure the pundits will have a field day with it. Doesn't seem like it was a wise move at this stage.
I don't think she had a choice. When the campaign fails to deliver the delegates to keep her well in the lead, the manager is the first to fall. Remember, it's not her personality or what she has become, it's the campaign that's run aground.
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I still don't get it, and I'll have you know, I perused it.

One of them is going to HAVE to cry uncle and make a deal, if they really do care what happens to this country. They'd both show me they had some real courage and convictions if they do, but they won't.
bah....giving in is overrated...see Al Gore and John Kerry...
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lol...that wasn't necessarily posted to back up the scary part...I found it interesting..

But it is obvious you didn't read it

A race-tinged brawl at the convention, some nine weeks before Election Day, will not be a Hallmark moment. As Mr. Wilkins reiterated to me last week, it will be a flashback to the Democratic civil war of 1968, a suicide for the party no matter which victor ends up holding the rancid spoils
Why don't you read about the 1968 Chicago Democratic convention.

Passionate, anti-war Democrats were for Bobbie Kennedy, who had been assassinated in June (before the August convention), or Eugene McCarthy. The good old boys,
the party bosses, shoved a milquetoast compromise down the throats of liberal wing of the Democratic party -- and Hubert H. Humphrey's candidacy enabled Richard Milhous Nixon to win by a landslide.

And from all I have read and can recall, Humphrey was actually a pretty decent person, unlike Mrs. Clinton.

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