Clinton dismisses weekend losses

EvilMonkey · 02-11-2008, 12:02 PM

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WHITE MARSH, Maryland (CNN) — Hillary Clinton on Monday explained away Barack Obama's clean sweep of the weekend's caucuses and primaries as a product of a caucus system that favors "activists" and, in the case of the Louisiana primary, an energized African-American community.

She told reporters who had gathered to watch her tour a General Motors plant here that "everybody knew, you all knew, what the likely outcome of these recent contests were."

"These are caucus states by and large, or in the case of Louisiana, you know, a very strong and very proud African-American electorate, which I totally respect and understand."

Clinton has publicly dismissed the caucus voting system since before Super Tuesday, seeking to lower expectations heading into a series of contests that played to Obama's advantage. His campaign features what many consider to be a stronger and more dedicated grassroots organization than Clinton's.

Noting that "my husband never did well in caucus states either," Clinton argued that caucuses are "primarily dominated by activists" and that "they don't represent the electorate, we know that."
The New York senator went out of her way to say she was "absolutely" looking forward to the Ohio and Texas primaries in March, where she believes voters are more receptive to her bread-and-butter message.

She also downplayed many of Obama's Super Tuesday victories, describing them as states that Democrats should not expect to win in November.

"It is highly unlikely we will win Alaska or North Dakota or Idaho or Nebraska," she said, naming several of Obama's red state wins. "But we have to win Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Florida, Michigan … And we've got to be competitive in places like Texas, Missouri and Oklahoma."

There you have it, if you are in one of these states it's a big fuck you or you are part of a primarily black state. I never realized Idaho and Washington with their 90(some odd)% white people were so black.

And for the record, to downplay that type of a loss is ridiculous. She has clearly been hurt by it, you can't just write off that many states and pretend it never happened.

CosmicRocker · 02-11-2008, 12:09 PM

What do you expect her to say?
Campaigns always lower expectations.

Jonesy · 02-11-2008, 12:13 PM

After living in Washington for 6 years, I can tell you, there are no 'black' people here.

DRS112 · 02-11-2008, 12:24 PM

She has to do well in MI?? Didn't that ship already sail....stripped of delegates and all?

But yeah...those damn activists and African Americans screwing up our primary process

EvilMonkey · 02-11-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

What do you expect her to say?
Campaigns always lower expectations.

Something other than blaming her losses on black people for one. That is no different than when Bill was spewing that crap about Jesse Jackson.

CosmicRocker · 02-11-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

Something other than blaming her losses on black people for one. That is no different than when Bill was spewing that crap about Jesse Jackson.

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These are caucus states by and large, or in the case of Louisiana, you know, a very strong and very proud African-American electorate, which I totally respect and understand."

I don't se any " blame" here. I don't see any rascism either.
All I see is an apt description of a Large segment of Louisiana voters.
It is what it is.

poetrychic · 02-11-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

What do you expect her to say?
Campaigns always lower expectations.

how about congratulations? it was a good victory for my opponent? we'll just have to reinforce our efforts in the coming states? you know, anything other than that sore loser stuff...

poetrychic · 02-11-2008, 01:22 PM

besides, what's that "activists" bullshit? i would be interested in seeing her definition of that, does that mean all the people who are tired of the current way things are run? the people who are tired of the same old, same old? those activists, is that who she is talking about? is she trying to bastardise that "label" the right has done for "liberal"?

well, if that's the case, where do i sign up to be one of them, uh, activists

CosmicRocker · 02-11-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by poetrychic

how about congratulations? it was a good victory for my opponent? we'll just have to reinforce our efforts in the coming states? you know, anything other than that sore loser stuff...

That would be gracious, i agree.

EvilMonkey · 02-11-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by poetrychic

how about congratulations? it was a good victory for my opponent? we'll just have to reinforce our efforts in the coming states? you know, anything other than that sore loser stuff...

That would be a very classy response and I bet it would give her more support. I certainly would have given her credit for that.

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