Curator

By Joe Klein

The only people who bash Obama as lacking policy are the Clinton Apologists grasping at anything to bash Obama. Joe Klein can go fuck himself. I'm tired of reading his shit and listening to his drivel.

At the Federal level Obama’s participated in 113 bills that cover important issues like: voter-fraud, energy efficiency, healthcare, war on terror, etc…

At the Illinois State level Obama sponsored over 820 bills during his first 8 years:

233 healthcare reform
125 poverty and public assistance
112 crime fighting bills
97 economic bills
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills
21 ethics reform bills
15 gun control
6 veterans affairs.

Matt Yglesias tells us:

The narrative, of course, is bogus.

Obsedianwings has a great post about this and thoroughly debunks this myth that Obama “lack specifics,” “has weak details,” “thin details,” “all talk,” “lack substance,” “lack details,” etc.. etc...

Anyone who claims that Obama is lacking in specifics is deliberately uninformed. Both candidates have websites with detailed information. Both candidates wrote books with a substantial amount of helpful information about their values and policy positions.


Do your homework.

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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.”

"For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.”
- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials.

EvilMonkey

Great post. I have no doubt that Hillary has probably much more than this by coparison but the point here is that Obama is often made out to be all talk and this shows some substance.

Heretic

The worst part is that out of the original ten democratic/D.I.N.O. candidates Hillary (R) Clinton was by far the least substantive of them all.

When it comes to substance she doesn't have shit to say.

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Rollerball

In an interview on 60 Minutes last Sunday Obama commented about the complaint that he doesn't go into details in his speeches. He said that when he first started out his speeches were long on detail, but he was putting his audience to sleep, he mentioned getting some kind of nickname that had to do with being long winded but I can't remember what it was. . He said he decided to leave the details on his website where they belong. If anyone says they don't know what Obama's plans are it's because they choose not to know.

So yeah, he has substance, AND he's inspirational.

Something else that is common with these 'no substance' complaints, they make it sound as if inspiration is a bad thing. Oh hell yeah, you have to have substance too, Bush proved you can't run a country with only slogans, though he himself hasn't gotten the message yet. But don't down play the inspiration factor. Inspiration is Gold. It's not something you can buy or fake.

All my life I imagined how great it would be to have a leader that actually excited the country. I was too young for JFK, there have been leaders that I "liked" and some that even inspired me personally, but there weren't waves of other inspired supporters as there is this time. Someone that could stir the country into picking itself up out of the mud like Roosevelt did.

Inspiration is a really great place to start.

Curator

I also keep hearing from the Clinton supporters that the media just hasn’t done its job and properly vetted Obama, that he is somehow getting a free pass. Well, actually the Chicago press has been through his background thoroughly over the years. The reason you haven’t seen a parade of skeletons trotted out already is that the closet is pretty much empty. It sure isn’t because the Clinton campaign is taking it easy on him.

The Muslim problem, the racist church fable, the whispers about hidden anti-American sympathies; these are just stories made up to scare the wide-eyed children among us. You folks who repeat this garbage are either beneath contempt or dumb as stumps, take your pick. The missing votes, lack of specifics, leaving millions uninsured; just a lot of campaign spin that can’t hold up under any scrutiny.

We hear warnings about what the Republicans will do with issues like Resko or Barack’s youthful drug use. I think the American people are inclined to forgive someone who openly admits mistakes and learns from them. You become vulnerable to attack when you try to say I smoked pot but I didn’t inhale like Bill, or declare the subject of alcohol and cocaine use off the table like Bu$h. If you are honest and open it gives these people nowhere to go with the story, and the discussion soon shifts to something else.

The New York Times hit piece on Obama went nowhere when they interviewed people who knew Barack in college about his drug use. They couldn’t find anyone who thought it was ever more than casual use and about the worst the Times could conclude was that he may have embellished the extent of his youthful indiscretions a little. Are you kidding me? This is the dangerous scandal lurking in the background if we nominate Barack Obama? Gee, I’m terrified.

I wonder what the Republicans would find in Hillary's closet? The Republicans certainly won’t hesitate to wade into Billary if we give them the chance, and problems left over from Bill’s administration continue to surface to this day.

Here’s a question. If Barack is so fragile that the Republicans would take him apart in the general, then why are we still talking about it? Hillary is supposed to be the tough political infighter, and she certainly boasts many old hands at attack politics in her campaign. If Barack is such a weak candidate, then why is he still standing? The battle-tested argument makes less and less sense the longer this goes on.

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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.”

"For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.”
- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials.

HarperLee

I noticed this back in the Democratic primary debates -- up until the last 2 or 3 that were down to Hillary, Edwards, Obama, and then
Hillary, Obama.

Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Kucinich were all articulate and able to discuss issues. Hillary seemed to be speaking to the lowest common denominator with her glib platitudes. Hit the ground running on Day One. Hit the ground running on Day One. Hit the ground running on Day 1. 35 years' experience. 35 years' experience. 35 years' experience. 35 years' experience.