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Old 02-12-2008, 09:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well Michigan is more than likely going to do a reelection, while I think most people will just say "fuck you" to Florida just because they said "fuck you" to the idea of holding reelections.

BTW Total delegates now are Obama 1231, Clinton 1196. If Obama can hold off Clinton in Texas and Ohio, he's won.
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that's what i was thinking, they'd have to do a revote with everyone on the ballot if they were going to seat the delegates from michigan...or else seat the delegates and not have them count in anyone's totals..
The problem is the national party doesn't want to pay for it and the state can't afford it.
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Ever wonder how adult people can make so many stupid decisions?
It is because the brain deteriorates just like the rest of the body.
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The problem is the national party doesn't want to pay for it and the state can't afford it.
We could afford it if the federal govt. wasn't siphoning money out of the state.
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If Hillary pushes too hard on the MI and FL delegate issue she is going to look even worse!

The pledge she signed will likely hit the internet. I think she takes the risk of alienating even more voters!
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Black Knight, I don't know you and I don't mean this personally but, dude, that avatar of yours is very offensive, on so many levels.
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If Hillary pushes too hard on the MI and FL delegate issue she is going to look even worse!

The pledge she signed will likely hit the internet. I think she takes the risk of alienating even more voters!
From Frank Rich's column in Sunday New York Times:

Less than two weeks ago she was airlifted into her own, less effective version of “Mission Accomplished.” Instead of declaring faux victory in Iraq, she starred in a made-for-television rally declaring faux victory in a Florida primary that was held in defiance of party rules, involved no campaigning and awarded no delegates. As Andrea Mitchell of NBC News said, it was “the Potemkin village of victory celebrations.”
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So much for Mrs. Clinton’s assurance on New Hampshire Public Radio last fall that it didn’t matter if she alone kept her name on the Michigan ballot because the vote “is not going to count for anything.”
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We could afford it if the federal govt. wasn't siphoning money out of the state.
That's not something that will be corrrected before the convention.
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