News Item MSNBC - For Clinton, Ohio, Texas emerge as must-wins

EvilMonkey · 02-12-2008, 10:47 AM

I guess you can't blame her for trying to pretend that she expected to lose those states and blowing it off like they don't count. In reality it's hurting her campaign pretty bad though.

For Clinton, Ohio, Texas emerge as must-wins - The New York Times - MSNBC.com

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and her advisers increasingly believe that, after a series of losses, she has been boxed into a must-win position in the Ohio and Texas primaries on March 4, and she has begun reassuring anxious donors and superdelegates that the nomination is not slipping away from her, aides said Monday.

Mrs. Clinton held a buck-up-the-troops conference call on Monday with donors, superdelegates and other supporters; several of them said afterward that she sounded tired and a little down, but determined about Ohio and Texas. And these donors and superdelegates said that they were not especially soothed, saying they believed she could be on a losing streak that could jeopardize her competitiveness in Ohio and Texas.

“She has to win both Ohio and Texas comfortably, or she’s out,” said one Democratic superdelegate who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to share a candid assessment. “The campaign is starting to come to terms with that.” Campaign advisers, also speaking privately in order to speak plainly, confirmed this view.

CosmicRocker · 02-12-2008, 10:52 AM

Agreed. These are must wins - no doubt about it. The demographics favor her there - so she need to win her base.

EvilMonkey · 02-12-2008, 10:58 AM

I wonder how much money Obama is throwing into those two states. I would think he needs to be bombarding them to get an edge on Hillary.

CosmicRocker · 02-12-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

I wonder how much money Obama is throwing into those two states. I would think he needs to be bombarding them to get an edge on Hillary.

He is bombarding them with ads. Pretty sure i heard refernece to it.
But don't crucify me cause i can't google you an answer.

HarperLee · 02-12-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr

I wonder how much money Obama is throwing into those two states. I would think he needs to be bombarding them to get an edge on Hillary.

From the New York Times story linked above:

Still, Mr. Obama’s financial edge allowed him to begin running television ads in Ohio and Texas on Monday, while the Clinton campaign plans to begin advertising on Tuesday. Mrs. Clinton advisers say that she will have ads running statewide in both Ohio and Texas, and that she will have ads in English and Spanish in Texas.

EvilMonkey · 02-12-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

He is bombarding them with ads. Pretty sure i heard refernece to it.
But don't crucify me cause i can't google you an answer.

Just speculating here is all, no need for links of proof or anything like that.

ocealdia · 02-12-2008, 11:39 AM

She definitely HAS to win Ohio and Texas - because it looks like Obama will make a clean Potomac sweep.

jdanton · 02-12-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

I guess you can't blame her for trying to pretend that she expected to lose those states and blowing it off like they don't count. In reality it's hurting her campaign pretty bad though.

For Clinton, Ohio, Texas emerge as must-wins - The New York Times - MSNBC.com

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and her advisers increasingly believe that, after a series of losses, she has been boxed into a must-win position in the Ohio and Texas primaries on March 4, and she has begun reassuring anxious donors and superdelegates that the nomination is not slipping away from her, aides said Monday.

Mrs. Clinton held a buck-up-the-troops conference call on Monday with donors, superdelegates and other supporters; several of them said afterward that she sounded tired and a little down, but determined about Ohio and Texas. And these donors and superdelegates said that they were not especially soothed, saying they believed she could be on a losing streak that could jeopardize her competitiveness in Ohio and Texas.

“She has to win both Ohio and Texas comfortably, or she’s out,” said one Democratic superdelegate who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to share a candid assessment. “The campaign is starting to come to terms with that.” Campaign advisers, also speaking privately in order to speak plainly, confirmed this view.

I view it a little differently. They are must wins for Obama to put an end to this, no?

If she does win these states comfortably, then won't she have the "momentum?"

Won't we be back to a "dead heat?"

Comicsartist · 02-12-2008, 12:30 PM

Ohio for Obama!!!

...maybe?

...please?

02-12-2008, 10:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
EvilMonkey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,111 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 66 Thanked 421 Times in 257 Posts	MSNBC - For Clinton, Ohio, Texas emerge as must-wins I guess you can't blame her for trying to pretend that she expected to lose those states and blowing it off like they don't count. In reality it's hurting her campaign pretty bad though. For Clinton, Ohio, Texas emerge as must-wins - The New York Times - MSNBC.com Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and her advisers increasingly believe that, after a series of losses, she has been boxed into a must-win position in the Ohio and Texas primaries on March 4, and she has begun reassuring anxious donors and superdelegates that the nomination is not slipping away from her, aides said Monday. Mrs. Clinton held a buck-up-the-troops conference call on Monday with donors, superdelegates and other supporters; several of them said afterward that she sounded tired and a little down, but determined about Ohio and Texas. And these donors and superdelegates said that they were not especially soothed, saying they believed she could be on a losing streak that could jeopardize her competitiveness in Ohio and Texas. “She has to win both Ohio and Texas comfortably, or she’s out,” said one Democratic superdelegate who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to share a candid assessment. “The campaign is starting to come to terms with that.” Campaign advisers, also speaking privately in order to speak plainly, confirmed this view. __________________ Barack Obama - Get the facts at BarackObamaWatch.com
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CosmicRocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lost in a lost world Posts: 7,660 My Mood: Thanks: 126 Thanked 96 Times in 76 Posts	Agreed. These are must wins - no doubt about it. The demographics favor her there - so she need to win her base. __________________ Try a little love. and it cant go wrong Get on the right thing My little love, you cant go wrong Get on the right thing .
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EvilMonkey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,111 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 66 Thanked 421 Times in 257 Posts	I wonder how much money Obama is throwing into those two states. I would think he needs to be bombarding them to get an edge on Hillary. __________________ Barack Obama - Get the facts at BarackObamaWatch.com
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ocealdia Democrat Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: great plains Posts: 786 My Mood: Thanks: 58 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	She definitely HAS to win Ohio and Texas - because it looks like Obama will make a clean Potomac sweep.
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Comicsartist Pass that, will ya? Tournaments Won: 8 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: oHIGHo Posts: 7,478 My Mood: Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 109 Thanked 202 Times in 140 Posts	Ohio for Obama!!! ...maybe? ...please? __________________ The art of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing thoughts in mind at the same time while still retaining the ability to function. -F. Scott Fitzgerald-
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