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Old 02-14-2008, 01:39 PM   #101 (permalink)
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The military or the current administration do not represent all of this country. No citizen is ever expected to like all things this or any administration has or ever will do. To expect such IS the most anti-American thinking possible....since distrust of govt.. freedom of speech and opposition to foreign military in countries is what this country was founded on.

Never was wholesale support for military/war considered American...in fact if anything it runs completely contrary. Sounds more like something that would be expected in the U.S.S.R.
I bet you wouldnt be thinking that way if you were a grunt on patrol in Baghdad. You can't oppose the war AND support the troops. It is illogical and unpatriotic. The wars in Afghan and Iraq have kept us safe and that should be the highest goal. Protection of the homeland. In WWII you didnt see people out burning flags and opposing recruiting stations. You saw American working with every fiber of their being to protect this precious democracy.

Islamofascists are the new Nazis and I'm hearing surrender from most on this board.
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Good. Cause you are a Berkeley-sympathizer. And that aint much higher than an outhouse floor.
Right. But then you'd say that about an American wouldn't you.

You know, our government has a place for people who espouse anti-American viewpoints, and advocate attacks on American soil.

"I would not be too opposed to utilizing a neutron weapon on Berkeley."

You publically endorsed the use of WMD's on our sovereign nation.

You ARE the enemy.

We have a place called 'Gitmo' for people like you. Terrorist.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:42 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Well they chose to go political in a political town. It's hardball inside the Beltway.

Wow...so politics is an excuse to commit treason?


So what are they doing in Berkley?
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:46 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I bet you wouldnt be thinking that way if you were a grunt on patrol in Baghdad.

I wouldn't give a rats ass what they thought

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You can't oppose the war AND support the troops.
Yes I can

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It is illogical and unpatriotic.
In order for somebody to take your claim seriously you have to provide more than just your statement of opinion


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The wars in Afghan and Iraq have kept us safe and that should be the highest goal.
Not according to reports that say the opposite...again you have to do more than state your opinion

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Protection of the homeland.
Iraq didn't attack us.

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In WWII you didnt see people out burning flags and opposing recruiting stations. You saw American working with every fiber of their being to protect this precious democracy.
Well gee...that's what happens when you fight a war for the right reasons

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Islamofascists are the new Nazis and I'm hearing surrender from most on this board.
Islamofascists does not equal Iraq.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:52 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Right. But then you'd say that about an American wouldn't you.

You know, our government has a place for people who espouse anti-American viewpoints, and advocate attacks on American soil.

"I would not be too opposed to utilizing a neutron weapon on Berkeley."

You publically endorsed the use of WMD's on our sovereign nation.

You ARE the enemy.

We have a place called 'Gitmo' for people like you. Terrorist.
Berkeley is not a part of our sovereign nation. It is a commie sovereign all its own and I do not recognize it as part of my country. Damn right. Slice them off the mainland.
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Wow...so politics is an excuse to commit treason?

So what are they doing in Berkley?
I didnt say politics was an excuse to commit treason. I said if you are gonna try to play politics inside the beltway you better tell your wife.
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In order for somebody to take your claim seriously you have to provide more than just your statement of opinion
Which is what I am here to do. You offering me consulting work?

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Not according to reports that say the opposite...again you have to do more than state your opinion
Oh. But YOUR opinion is fact? I see.


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Iraq didn't attack us.
Al qaeda is there fighting us. Do you deny that?

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Well gee...that's what happens when you fight a war for the right reasons
See above. If you believe that al qaeda and other islamofascists are the new Nazis, then it IS war for the RIGHT reasons.

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Islamofascists does not equal Iraq.
They are there fighting us tooth and nail. And if we leave they will follow.
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I bet you wouldnt be thinking that way if you were a grunt on patrol in Baghdad. You can't oppose the war AND support the troops. It is illogical and unpatriotic. The wars in Afghan and Iraq have kept us safe and that should be the highest goal. Protection of the homeland. In WWII you didnt see people out burning flags and opposing recruiting stations. You saw American working with every fiber of their being to protect this precious democracy.

Islamofascists are the new Nazis and I'm hearing surrender from most on this board.
Personally, when I got out of the military, and I saw someone burning a flag in protest I said to myself, "Freedom of speech, that's why I spent 5 years serving. It's a good thing."
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Berkeley is not a part of our sovereign nation. It is a commie sovereign all its own and I do not recognize it as part of my country. Damn right. Slice them off the mainland.
You know with the patriot Act, it's possible the gov't has already seen you call for a strike on U.S. soil.

Hope you got a good lawyer.

Not that it'll help.

Enjoy the water-boarding, enemy combatant.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:03 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Which is what I am here to do. You offering me consulting work?

Oh. But YOUR opinion is fact? I see.

in the origional post I gave reasons as to why...you have't but if you choose just to talk at people with no logic or evidence don't expect anybody to take you seriously...


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Al qaeda is there fighting us. Do you deny that?
Nope. But they're not the only ones.


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See above. If you believe that al qaeda and other islamofascists are the new Nazis, then it IS war for the RIGHT reasons.
Not when there wasn't any evidence that al-queda existed before we got there. It is war for the wrong reason when we attack a country that had nothing to do with it. The soldiers don't deserve it, the people of Iraq don't deserve it and we don't deserve it....seems like wrong reasons to me.

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They are there fighting us tooth and nail. And if we leave they will follow.

yeah I'm sure...there will be Al-queda subs, cruisers, soldiers, Air Craft carriers on our shores.

But...this has nothing to do with supporting the troops, or freedom of speech...instead of addressing that you just delved into the reasons why YOU think the war was a good idea.
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