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Old 03-05-2008, 06:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hillary outspent by Obama

I wanted to bring this up, Hillary was outspent by Obama 4 to 1 in key states this weekend and I see it being used as an excuse. How could he possibly lose when he outspent her by that much, right?

Bill and Hillary's net worth is 34.9 million while Barack and Michelle's is 1.3 million. Hillary had to loan her campaign 5 million after spending all of the donations her campaign had raised through both private and lobbyist donations to no avail against Obama through eleven states.

Yes, he outspent Hillary and he did it with clean money and no huge backers. This is something to be very proud of, through donations and hard work he's made the Clinton's work for every ounce of delegates they currently have and this will still go to the convention.

Again, six months ago how many of us have even heard of the name Barack Obama and how long have we known of the Clinton's?
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I wanted to bring this up, Hillary was outspent by Obama 4 to 1 in key states this weekend and I see it being used as an excuse. How could he possibly lose when he outspent her by that much, right?

Bill and Hillary's net worth is 34.9 million while Barack and Michelle's is 1.3 million. Hillary had to loan her campaign 5 million after spending all of the donations her campaign had raised through both private and lobbyist donations to no avail against Obama through eleven states.

Yes, he outspent Hillary and he did it with clean money and no huge backers. This is something to be very proud of, through donations and hard work he's made the Clinton's work for every ounce of delegates they currently have and this will still go to the convention.

Again, six months ago how many of us have even heard of the name Barack Obama and how long have we known of the Clinton's?

Eric, my friend, you are right. 6 months ago we knew nothing much of Senator Obama. A month ago we knew little about him other than he inspires people.


The MEDIA is the 800 lb gorrila in the room. Suddenly they are looking at him, and it's not all as inspiring as people believed.

He's gotten a LOT of negative coverage in the last 72 hours. It's changing the perception of him.

I have to ask you: is it not better that this happens before he's the nominee than after?
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I have to ask you: is it not better that this happens before he's the nominee than after?
And YOU have to concede that there IS the matter of securing the nomination?

Who is most likely to take shots at him while the nomination is still up for grabs...Democrats who support another Democrat, or Republicans who don't support either one of them?
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I don't think it was negative press as much as they just let him drop over the last few days. Every news site, station and entertainment media had nothing but Hillary on throughout the entire weekend. That seemed fair since they have been definitely leaning towards Obama for the last several weeks anyway.

The point is though, he's come a long way in a short time on his own steam and it's taking a well established, household name like the Clinton's to task. Not bad for a little nobody out of Ill.
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And YOU have to concede that there IS the matter of securing the nomination?

Who is most likely to take shots at him while the nomination is still up for grabs...Democrats who support another Democrat, or Republicans who don't support either one of them?
Excellent point, the GOP loves Hillary and have a lot to throw at her in the GE which is why they are doing everything they can to push the vote for her. Obama has what, Rezko, a little skeleton or two? They don't want any part of a newcomer they cannot out right destroy. Hillary will most likely lose the GE if she gets the nod.
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Eric, my friend, you are right. 6 months ago we knew nothing much of Senator Obama. A month ago we knew little about him other than he inspires people.


The MEDIA is the 800 lb gorrila in the room. Suddenly they are looking at him, and it's not all as inspiring as people believed.

He's gotten a LOT of negative coverage in the last 72 hours. It's changing the perception of him.

I have to ask you: is it not better that this happens before he's the nominee than after?
Bullshit as usual. Your candidate is the one who engaged in the negativity. And she hate to lie do to it. We know how Hillary will be in the white house, and that's why we're not going to vote for her ever.
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Yes, he outspent Hillary and he did it with clean money and no huge backers.


Never mind the Rezko funds, John Waihee, and the entire corrupt Democrat Chicago money laundering machine.

And

Goldman Sachs - $421,763
UBS - $296,670
Lehman Brothers - $250,630
National Amusements - $245,843
JP Morgan Chase - $240,788
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Never mind the Rezko funds, John Waihee, and the entire corrupt Democrat Chicago money laundering machine.

And

Goldman Sachs - $421,763
UBS - $296,670
Lehman Brothers - $250,630
National Amusements - $245,843
JP Morgan Chase - $240,788

Damned corporations.
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Obama's worshipers have no use for facts and information. He's whatever they want him to be.
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Extremist Republicans have no use for democracy. Admit it, if you had your way Rush would be our dictator and you would smoke his pole every chance you could.
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