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Old 03-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hillary to Democrat Voters: "F*ck Hope!"

It's been a long and hard fought campaign, but tonight our beloved Hillary prepares for landslide victories in tomorrow's Texas and Ohio primaries, victories that will hopefully turn the tide against that raghead, Magic Negro, Uncle Tom, Reagan Conservative pretender to the throne so that she can focus her attention on the Republican Attack Machine. However, Hillary's most dangerous enemy thus far has not been Barack Obama. It's been "Hope."

The Return of Hope! Hope Springs Eternal! Keep Hope Alive! I'll Always Believe in a Place Called Hope! Where does he get that bullshit? And why are people falling for it? Hillary's ascendancy was preordained. Now everyone is so stirred up with "hope" that she'll be lucky to squeak out a win in Rhode Island. Then it will be an uphill battle to return voters to that general state of hopelessness they experienced back when her nomination was such a forgone conclusion.

And when she wins back the White House - and she will win it - anyone who fell for all that "Hope" crap and stabbed Hillary in the back better "Hope" they crossed all their T's and dotted their I's on their tax returns.



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Just say 'fuck', please... pretty fucking please. Jesus, what a bunch of over-protected, dependent pussies.
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Fascism and communism are both the very opposite of American. Republicans have essentially been fascists since WWII, just as Democrats have essentially been communists.

Need to nix this shit. Time is not something to waste.
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Fascism and communism are both the very opposite of American. Republicans have essentially been fascists since WWII, just as Democrats have essentially been communists.

Need to nix this shit. Time is not something to waste.
The whole country has been turning corporate since WWII. Ike's MIC warning amplified. Has nothing to do with Fascism or Communism. There is no dictator to focus the government side of the Fascist angle, and both systems are economic systems and as such could be incorporated into American politics quite easily. Ours is currently a free-market capitalism system. Both the Repukes and the Dumbocrats have had equal time, culpability, and reward from turning corporatists. The big lie is the GOP convincing folks that Dems are communist. Far left Dems are, but not the mainstream. Same was true of the GOP and it's far righties, but Bush has proven the minority far-wingers can in fact hijack a party. The centrists are disillusioned and 53% of eligible voters don't vote.
Corporatism is the enemy of America, not paltry communist or fascist systems. Terrorism is just another side-show for profit whoring corporatist politicians.
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Dallas would be a dried up pond with without the corporatism there.
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The whole country has been turning corporate since WWII. Ike's MIC warning amplified. Has nothing to do with Fascism or Communism. There is no dictator to focus the government side of the Fascist angle, and both systems are economic systems and as such could be incorporated into American politics quite easily. Ours is currently a free-market capitalism system. Both the Repukes and the Dumbocrats have had equal time, culpability, and reward from turning corporatists. The big lie is the GOP convincing folks that Dems are communist. Far left Dems are, but not the mainstream. Same was true of the GOP and it's far righties, but Bush has proven the minority far-wingers can in fact hijack a party. The centrists are disillusioned and 53% of eligible voters don't vote.
Corporatism is the enemy of America, not paltry communist or fascist systems. Terrorism is just another side-show for profit whoring corporatist politicians.
LoL. There has never been a true capitalist system...well...anywhere. What we have is closer to mercantilism characteristic of the 17th and 18th centuries.

The word "Corporate" simply describes a business model which is really only relevant in the legal sense that it gives "person" status so we know who to sue essentially. I suppose I understand what you're inferring but I disagree.

The practice of "corporatism" divergent from the business model, is when all activities--social, political, economic, and otherwise-- are essentially channeled though a unelected hierarchical body. I think that advertising and negative social capitol have made in roads to places that traditionally were left to individuals, but nothing that drastic. I work for a corporation but that is about the extent of my involvement. I could quite tomorrow, with some consequences for sure but they do not "control" my economic situation in that I would be in duress if I were not to work for them.

I think you should look it up, and do a few mins of reading. There is quite a bit of information out there about this subject, and if your interested in it.
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LoL. There has never been a true capitalist system...well...anywhere. What we have is closer to mercantilism characteristic of the 17th and 18th centuries.

The word "Corporate" simply describes a business model which is really only relevant in the legal sense that it gives "person" status so we know who to sue essentially. I suppose I understand what you're inferring but I disagree.

The practice of "corporatism" divergent from the business model, is when all activities--social, political, economic, and otherwise-- are essentially channeled though a unelected hierarchical body. I think that advertising and negative social capitol have made in roads to places that traditionally were left to individuals, but nothing that drastic. I work for a corporation but that is about the extent of my involvement. I could quite tomorrow, with some consequences for sure but they do not "control" my economic situation in that I would be in duress if I were not to work for them.

I think you should look it up, and do a few mins of reading. There is quite a bit of information out there about this subject, and if your interested in it.
very nice. love how ppl throw words around in a perjorative manner. without useing the true meanings?
Or skewing the meanings to a meaningless phrase?
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LoL. There has never been a true capitalist system...well...anywhere. What we have is closer to mercantilism characteristic of the 17th and 18th centuries.

The word "Corporate" simply describes a business model which is really only relevant in the legal sense that it gives "person" status so we know who to sue essentially. I suppose I understand what you're inferring but I disagree.

The practice of "corporatism" divergent from the business model, is when all activities--social, political, economic, and otherwise-- are essentially channeled though a unelected hierarchical body. I think that advertising and negative social capitol have made in roads to places that traditionally were left to individuals, but nothing that drastic. I work for a corporation but that is about the extent of my involvement. I could quite tomorrow, with some consequences for sure but they do not "control" my economic situation in that I would be in duress if I were not to work for them.

I think you should look it up, and do a few mins of reading. There is quite a bit of information out there about this subject, and if your interested in it.
Corporate, corporation, and corporatism are not equal terms. True about the capitalist system, but only in the black and white of the terminology. Same could be said of communism, as true communism is not what the USSR or China practice. But within acceptable terminilogy, it is what it is and it is what we practice. Our version IS more of a mercantile based system, but it would be considering the history of our government's evolution. For the confines of this format, capitalism will suffice. I'm not writing a book, here.

The corporatism I'm referring to was born of a combining of our resources, manufacturing capabilities, population, mechanization, and infrastructures after WWII, something no other industrialized nation could say. This led to a shifting of money, and in a capitalist system that equates to power. That power then consolidated itself thru lobby actions and media advertisement. That power grows thru the stranglehold on the election process as well as the lobby influence and post office-holding job offers. This corporatism is a consolidation of money and power that individuals and traditional corporations can't match. The control comes from the money and the corporations and flows to the government while gaining legality and govermental controls in return. Fascism works in reverse with the government being the generator, as in Italy and the 7 pre-WWII. Corporatism of the newest breed birthed during Reagan's admin., and has thrived and been nourished from both parties since, is a relatively new creation culminating from years of this shifting of corporate power. Mega-Corporations, laughingly referred as public owned, owned by minority owners who have no pride of ownership. These minority owners are the newest members of the Billionaires club, a club growing under Bush's admin. like never imagined. This shift of power is responsible for the Iraq war, media manipulation thru ownership, privatization of prisons, expansion of Big-Brother U.A.s, Privatization (thru public funds) of Primary Education, attempted privatization of Social Security, and the fact that UHC isn't discussed without the mention of leaving in the private insurance companies. As an added bonus, now that the power has shifted, the government itself is getting into the act with the Patriot Act, MPA, NAFTA, and others.

Here's a great, tho long docu. 145 minutes. Slightly preachy, but the info is sound.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.into/article12998.htm
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^ good post too. But could you please space out your paragraphs, and sentances begin on a new line?
I'd love to read this - but it's causes eye strain thewayyourunitalltogether
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