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Old 03-09-2008, 04:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Not true. The VP has to be ready to be prez in an instant, like Johnson was with Kennedy.
You're getting should confused with is. It hasn't gone before the courts. The wording very clearly doesn't refer to the position, tho I would imagine that an oversight backed up by assumption thereafter. I thought the same as you until the Clinton/Clinton issue came up on another board. I read the Amendments, then read various interpretations by various sources on the internet. They pretty much saw it as I did: Not mentioned but with all agreeing that a court would rule in that favor and thus set the precedence.

In the meantime, in the scenario where the V.P. steps in, you would proceed down the succession line temporarilly (as would also happen if the V.P. was temporarilly unavailable for any other reason i.e. health). It wouldn't take long, I would imagine and it's not like the V.P. would be realistically not acting President.

I would imagine that there is a way to go ahead and set that as a law without actually making another Amendment. I would imagine that both would be challenged by opposition parties at the outset of the campaign, much less becoming an issue during a term. Considering we're talking two scenarios in one election. That there is the scenarios, somehow they should go ahead and challenge the possibility and go ahead and set the precedence. I think it would be prudent and thus clean up a rediculous situation.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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You're getting should confused with is. It hasn't gone before the courts. The wording very clearly doesn't refer to the position, tho I would imagine that an oversight backed up by assumption thereafter. I thought the same as you until the Clinton/Clinton issue came up on another board. I read the Amendments, then read various interpretations by various sources on the internet. They pretty much saw it as I did: Not mentioned but with all agreeing that a court would rule in that favor and thus set the precedence.

In the meantime, in the scenario where the V.P. steps in, you would proceed down the succession line temporarilly (as would also happen if the V.P. was temporarilly unavailable for any other reason i.e. health). It wouldn't take long, I would imagine and it's not like the V.P. would be realistically not acting President.

I would imagine that there is a way to go ahead and set that as a law without actually making another Amendment. I would imagine that both would be challenged by opposition parties at the outset of the campaign, much less becoming an issue during a term. Considering we're talking two scenarios in one election. That there is the scenarios, somehow they should go ahead and challenge the possibility and go ahead and set the precedence. I think it would be prudent and thus clean up a rediculous situation.
So according to you Arnold Swarzenegger could be vice president?
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So according to you Arnold Swarzenegger could be vice president?
No, according to me he isn't diqualified to be one, but seriously doubt (but don't KNOW) he'd make it pass the courts. Then with precedence, those Amendments would more or less apply to the V.P., as well.
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So....stupid question...a foreign national can't be pres...but can he be VP?
you tinking AHHHRNOLD the VICE PRESENATOR of United STATZ?
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No, according to me he isn't diqualified to be one, but seriously doubt (but don't KNOW) he'd make it pass the courts. Then with precedence, those Amendments would more or less apply to the V.P., as well.
Makes no difference about Arnold--he can't beat McCain and Jeb Bush...but I believe he can make it into the US House where he will eventually have more clout than whichever the sitting VP might be...
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Makes no difference about Arnold--he can't beat McCain and Jeb Bush...but I believe he can make it into the US House where he will eventually have more clout than whichever the sitting VP might be...
That would be a logical next step in his political progression, tho he's rich and not getting any younger and has heart issues. He might retire. I doubt he becomes a director.
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That would be a logical next step in his political progression, tho he's rich and not getting any younger and has heart issues. He might retire. I doubt he becomes a director.
But can Clinton and any VP, or Obama and any VP beat a McCain/Jeb Bush ticket??

Will it take a Clinton/Obama type ticket to have a chance??
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But can Clinton and any VP, or Obama and any VP beat a McCain/Jeb Bush ticket??

Will it take a Clinton/Obama type ticket to have a chance??
I would think that Clinton/Obama combination is ultimately doomed. Two too high profile seeking individuals. At least Reagan/Bush friction didn't include limelight. Doubt it on Jeb. Even Dan Quayle has more likelihood!
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I would think that Clinton/Obama combination is ultimately doomed. Two too high profile seeking individuals. At least Reagan/Bush friction didn't include limelight. Doubt it on Jeb. Even Dan Quayle has more likelihood!
I agree with you on the Clinton/Obama ticket.

Now that McCain has the nomination wrapped up I'm not sure if there is a reason for him to wait any longer on disclosing his VP choice??

I actually wish the Dems would be required to do this as well. It's quite bothersome to me to get behind a candidate only to find they want Lieberman or Quayle or some other horses-ass to be their VP!

McCain/Bush will be hard to beat...
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No. The VP must be qualified to be prez.
Right -- the VP has the same qualifications as the President. That's why Bill cannot be Clinton's VP.
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