PoliticalGroove Forums

Welcome to the PoliticalGroove Forums

We offer discussion, social groups and blogs in an open and free environment. Our free community you will have access to post topics, post blogs, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!



Go Back   PoliticalGroove Forums > Site Discussion > Election Center 2008
Share PG Forum Register Blogs FAQ Members List Social Groups Mark Forums Read

Sponsors
View Poll Results: Should Hillary drop out now?
Yes 17 70.83%
No 7 29.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-07-2008, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
Administrator
Points: 37,015, Level: 100 Points: 37,015, Level: 100 Points: 37,015, Level: 100
Activity: 70% Activity: 70% Activity: 70%
 
EvilMonkey's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 6,913
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 92
Thanked 517 Times in 320 Posts
EvilMonkey is a spectacular PG memberEvilMonkey is a spectacular PG member
Should Hillary Drop Out Now?

Simple question.
EvilMonkey is online now   Top
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to EvilMonkey For This Useful Post:
Old 03-07-2008, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 23,413, Level: 94 Points: 23,413, Level: 94 Points: 23,413, Level: 94
Activity: 8% Activity: 8% Activity: 8%
 
CosmicRocker's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: lost in a lost world
Posts: 8,052
My Mood:
Thanks: 144
Thanked 109 Times in 87 Posts
CosmicRocker is a famous PG member
how about a choice for
" should Obama drop out now"

Cmon Dude; there is a lot of states left.
Then the Superdelegates must weigh in on whom they think is the best nominee for the party.

The Florida and Michigan redos might happen..

Neither should drop out until we reach the endgame -
we're still in the midgame.
__________________

Traveling Wilburys (l to r)

Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Roy Orbison
CosmicRocker is offline   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 10:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 22,525, Level: 93 Points: 22,525, Level: 93 Points: 22,525, Level: 93
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Michigan by way of Iowa
Posts: 7,715
Thanks: 975
Thanked 339 Times in 229 Posts
RK77 has disabled reputation
It's your call, Hillary
It's 3 a.m., the phone is ringing and the crisis is you. So what's your answer?
Rosa Brooks

March 6, 2008

Hillary? Hillary?

What? It's 3 a.m.? Yes, I know that. Look, I'm sorry if I woke you up. But you said you were fine with 3 a.m. calls.

I'm calling because we have a serious crisis on our hands. And I thought of you immediately, because you're right, you're the only person who might be able to defuse the situation.

We've got a problem with John McCain, Hillary. Remember him? I know, you've been so busy lately trying to destroy Barack Obama that McCain probably slipped your mind. That's why I had to call.

Hillary, listen: This country could be in serious danger if McCain becomes president. His national security policies are a recipe for endless conflagration, especially in the Middle East. Saying McCain's a "hawk" is an understatement. McCain makes Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld look like cute little parakeets. No kidding. Remember "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran?" Ha ha.

No, no, you're right, it wasn't funny. And by the way, McCain says your Iraq strategy would constitute "surrender ... waving the white flag."

What's that? You don't w ant to see McCain become president either?

Then withdraw from the Democratic race right now, Hillary.

Whoa! Don't get so irritated. It's just that the longer you stay in, the more help you give McCain and the right.

Stop being so mean? I'm not trying to be mean, Hillary. Please, get yourself another pillow if you want one. You're smart and you're tough, and you've blazed an important trail. But at 3 a.m. -- dark-night-of-the-soul time -- we need to be realistic.

Let's do the math together. Do you want to go find a calculator? No? Sorry, of course you're good at math.

OK -- so before this week's primaries, Obama had 1,192 pledged delegates, and you had 1,036. On Tuesday, you won in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, and MSNBC estimates that after the results have been fully tabulated, you'll have eroded Obama's original 156-delegate lead by ... somewhere between seven and 13 pledged delegates.

Whoop-de-do.

What? Oh sure, you did manage to regain some momentum. And yes, I probably wouldn't even have called if it hadn't been for those infamous "red phone" ads you've been running. They're definitely effective ads, Hillary. By suggesting that Obama isn't fit to be commander in chief, you do seem to have shifted the dynamic; exit polls suggest that Ohio and Texas voters who made up their minds at the last minute mostly opted for you.

So is that your campaign's take-away here? That if you go all out to destroy Obama -- suggesting he's weak on national security -- you'll be able to eke out a few more victories in the primaries that lie ahead?

That's what I was afraid you were thinking. Only a few months ago, you were accusing Obama of attacks on you that came "right out of the Republican playbook." I should have figured you'd be studying that playbook yourself.

For the sake of your country, don't do this. You've got 12 contests remaining bef ore the Democratic convention, and given the complex proportional system for awarding delegates, you'll have to win all 12 by 20-point margins just to break even with Obama in the pledged delegate counts. It's not going to happen. (And don't even think about Florida and Michigan. Trying to change the rules in the middle of the game will tear the Democratic Party in two.)

And as you chase after near-impossibilities, you'll be running a campaign aimed at systematically destroying the reputation of your party's front-runner -- the candidate who leads in the overall popular vote as well as the delegate count, the candidate who has shown an impressive ability to win the hearts of independents and even Republicans, the candidate who is attracting new voters in droves, the candidate who voters think stands the best chance of preventing Mr. "Bomb Bomb Iran" from becoming our next president and leading us into a future of endless war.



This week, right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh urged Republicans to vote for you instead of McCain in Texas and Ohio -- because "Obama needs to be bloodied up. Look, half the country already hates Hillary. But nobody hates Obama yet. Hillary is going to be the one to have to bloody him up politically."

You were right all along, Hillary: There is a vast right-wing conspiracy. The thing is, you've just become their not-so-secret weapon.

Here it is at last, Hillary, a genuine test of your ability to lead in a dangerous world. It's too late for you to win the Democratic nomination -- but if you stay in the race, you can sure help Obama lose the White House.

What are you going to do?

Hillary?

Hillary?


Source
RK77 is offline   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 10:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 23,413, Level: 94 Points: 23,413, Level: 94 Points: 23,413, Level: 94
Activity: 8% Activity: 8% Activity: 8%
 
CosmicRocker's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: lost in a lost world
Posts: 8,052
My Mood:
Thanks: 144
Thanked 109 Times in 87 Posts
CosmicRocker is a famous PG member
dream on folks.If Obama can't win any big/swing states;
Except for Mo. by 1/10 of 1 %,
you're gonna see the Superdelegates fufill their role, and do what's best for the party an put Hillary over the top.
__________________

Traveling Wilburys (l to r)

Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Roy Orbison
CosmicRocker is offline   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 10:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
Sassy Lipstick Maverick
Points: 20,064, Level: 89 Points: 20,064, Level: 89 Points: 20,064, Level: 89
Activity: 6% Activity: 6% Activity: 6%
 
julia's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,806
Blog Entries: 7
Thanks: 275
Thanked 273 Times in 165 Posts
julia is a famous PG member
That's not much of an issue with a prez at 20% approval rating and McSame as rep nominee.
__________________
The candidate does not speak for the campaign.
julia is offline   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 11:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
Administrator
Points: 37,015, Level: 100 Points: 37,015, Level: 100 Points: 37,015, Level: 100
Activity: 70% Activity: 70% Activity: 70%
 
EvilMonkey's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 6,913
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 92
Thanked 517 Times in 320 Posts
EvilMonkey is a spectacular PG memberEvilMonkey is a spectacular PG member
Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicRocker View Post
how about a choice for
" should Obama drop out now"

Cmon Dude; there is a lot of states left.
Then the Superdelegates must weigh in on whom they think is the best nominee for the party.

The Florida and Michigan redos might happen..

Neither should drop out until we reach the endgame -
we're still in the midgame.
This was bias for a reason, just to show how many people dislike her. Even when the poll is tilted people still don't want her. There are only a few people on this site but any of the big sites that post polls favoring Hillary always fall short. She is just not a likable person.
EvilMonkey is online now   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 11:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 1,051, Level: 17 Points: 1,051, Level: 17 Points: 1,051, Level: 17
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Syxxt3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Grand Junction, CO
Posts: 158
My Mood:
Thanks: 20
Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts
Syxxt3 is a normal PG member
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericgtr View Post
This was bias for a reason, just to show how many people dislike her. Even when the poll is tilted people still don't want her. There are only a few people on this site but any of the big sites that post polls favoring Hillary always fall short. She is just not a likable person.

Yeah...I'm the one that voted no. After George Bush, Jr. I really don't give a shit.
Syxxt3 is offline   Top
Old 03-07-2008, 11:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Banned
Points: 2,051, Level: 27 Points: 2,051, Level: 27 Points: 2,051, Level: 27
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 436
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Black_Knight is going down hill
Ain't going to happen, but one can dream, can't they?
Black_Knight is offline   Top
Old 03-08-2008, 10:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
Master of Quill-Fu
Points: 26,614, Level: 97 Points: 26,614, Level: 97 Points: 26,614, Level: 97
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
 
Heretic's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion! Pool Jam - 10 Minute Game Champion!
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Taylorsville, "Utahistan" [stuck in the 20th century]... Now can I have my foreign aid/bribe???
Posts: 9,641
My Mood:
Blog Entries: 10
Thanks: 78
Thanked 310 Times in 239 Posts
Heretic is a famous PG member
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericgtr View Post
This was bias for a reason, just to show how many people dislike her. Even when the poll is tilted people still don't want her. There are only a few people on this site but any of the big sites that post polls favoring Hillary always fall short. She is just not a likable person.
The Hillaryphants just need to accept they hitched their hopes to a falling star burning out fast. She blew the primary by getting so nasty even republicans were shocked.
__________________
"In space no one can hear you scream. in D.C. it won't matter..." -Clinton Resurrection: The Alien Queen lives!
Heretic is offline   Top
Old 03-08-2008, 12:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Banned
Points: 2,051, Level: 27 Points: 2,051, Level: 27 Points: 2,051, Level: 27
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 436
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Black_Knight is going down hill
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Heretic View Post
The Hillaryphants just need to accept they hitched their hopes to a falling star burning out fast. She blew the primary by getting so nasty even republicans were shocked.
I wouldn't say that Hex, saying Obama is a pussy on national security and blaming him for her own fuck up is a long way from saying you had a black illegitament child, or were a war criminal.
Black_Knight is offline   Top
 

Sponsors

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC8
PoliticalGroove.com General political and social discussion