jdanton

While all of my family voted in our primary (for different people), had NJ had caucuses, NONE of my family would have been able to attend.

Isn't there something undemocratic about this?

Please don't make this a war about the present two candidates. Let's discuss it for 2012.

The more responsibilities one has, the less likely one is able to attend a caucus, and be "invisible" to the system by having a voice that won't be heard.

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DanS.

I don't like them...However, I wouldn't mind if caucuses were held and optional....you can go to one...listen to all of the hoopla and then vote in the primary...

HarperLee

Right out of Hillary's playbook.

She is on CNN whining that her supporters don't know what a caucus is because none of them have ever heard of a caucus before.
How would Obama's supporters know any more about caucuses?

Most of the caucuses have been held in the evening, Nevada and
Wyoming being the exceptions. Do all your family members work nights and Saturdays? I guess all Hillary's supporters work the night
shift, too.

I will make it real easy for you: voters supporting Barack Obama really just should not be allowed to vote.

poetrychic

how is it possible that her supporters don't know about caucuses? the caucus states have been caucus states for decades

surely she remembers how her husband won in the caucus states?

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HarperLee

Early onset senile dementia may soon be an issue in
her candidacy as well as McCain's: she also doesn't remember that her husband sealed the Democratic nomination in mid-March 1992, not June as she stated on last week's Sixty Minutes, TDS, and an interview with Andrea Mitchell.

She doesn't rmember that JFK did not win the Ohio primary in 1960,
and apparently does not have fact checkers on her staff.

I guess she can be forgiven because she was a Goldwater Girl at the time and maybe not paying attention, but if Lyndon Baines Johnson
were alive today, he would not take credit for the success of the
Civil Rights movement.

I guess she doesn't understand that Ann Richards would never have
supported her. I seriously doubt that Barbara Jordan would have either. So sad that she has to turn to the dead for support.
Ann Richards' son is livid. (Maybe we should all just surrender and be entertained: it is only a matter of time before she says that Martin
Luther King and John and Bobby Kennedy would have supportered her,
never mind that Caroline Kennedy doesn't agree.)

From another poster here: "She claimed that the President before Kennedy did not try to pass a civil rights act. That was Eisenhower. He signed the 1957 Civil Rights act over the objection of members of his own party!" Of course this could be attributed to the fact that
she is really not as brilliant as her supporters want to believe. She
flunked the bar the first time she took it.

Heretic

Maybe Hillary has a point here. After all the vast majority of her ardent supporters really aren't terribly bright.

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HarperLee

And she has played to that not-terribly-bright base since the first
debate. It used to drive me crazy that Dodd, Edwards, Biden, Kucinich, Richardson, and even Mike Gravel, were well-spoken while Hillary just seemed to shriek platitudes.

Recently she has been dropping the "g" in "ing" words to pander to
her base, as in "I'm hopin' y'all vote for me." Surely these people can
figure out that a 60-year old Wellsley/Yale educated woman would not talk like an Appalachian grandmother.

Her husband never did this -- or not that I noticed. He was comfortable in his own skin and, for all his flaws and faults, he
genuinely loved people -- well, white people, anyway.
He did not use one voice to address one crowd and another voice to address a different demographic.

In one stump speech yesterday which must have been attended by
pro-war voters from Wyoming, I could swear Hillary said, "We must win in Afghanistan and win in Iraq!" What?

And then in another speech, obviously to a different crowd, she was
making sounds about "we must bring our troops home".

jdanton

That would be cool, I guess.

There is a law that work MUST allow time for you to vote, I believe, but it doesn't cover caucusing, which is a longer time frame.

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jdanton

I don't think anyone's said they don't know what caucuses are, but that many people, apparently mostly out of the demographics that she does best, CAN'T get to the caucuses.

I really didn't want to make this a Hillary/Obama thing, but that's my stupidity.

Many people old enough to vote are not holding down jobs or raising families. They are more able to go to caucuses if they wish. If one is working, one cannot get off work to caucus (I'm sure some can, but many cannot). The handicapped can vote absantee in an election, but not in a caucus.

This raises the very legitimate, I think, question: does the caucus represent the demographics of the state?

I'd really like to see this entire system revisited for 2012

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CosmicRocker

they are not demographic of the state.
I wonder if the voters even have to certify they are registered voters?

MOST important -they are NOT a secret ballot.
They are stupid -i don't know why states have them, except maybe it's cheaper than having a ballot.

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